Leigh,
Real curious here if you don't mind spending a few more minutes on this topic (we are well past the point of changing each others mind obviously)...
You mentioned having the opposite view a few years ago and your mind was changed, what were your points/positions on race being physically real when you held such belief? (your side of the discussion that converted you)
I see Leigh mentioned that I went through the same process myself as youre asking him about.
Up until a few months ago I truly believed that there were 4 main groups Negros, caucasians, mongoloids and Austronesians and that all the sub groups were part of a larger group OR a mixture there of EG one close to home for you, Polynesians from Hawaii I assumed were Mongoloids and Polynesians from Tonga a mixture of Mongoloids and Austronesian sub group Melanesian. Even based in incorrect dated science I was wrong (on wrong)
Then I clashed heads with Leigh and others here and set off to prove them wrong. Here's my challenge to you, take any racial subclass either one of the big three or smaller and give me a definitive definition of what makes them a unique group to the exclusion of all others and if you can Im happy to jump ship.
I also accept that we may very well come to the point that scientists will be able to define races but its such a fucking long shot if you read up in depth on how we got to where we are.
We can definitely identify genes which are unique to certain population groups but that doesnt make them unique or a separate "race" its just a case of pro-race people back filling the definition to suit their agenda