Trump supporters: What will be a successful Presidency?

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Zeph

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What goals will he needs to achieve to for a Trump presidency to be a success? What legislation will have to be passed? Lets try and split it up 4 categories, if possible.

1. Ok Presidency


2. Good Presidency


3. Great Presidency


4. Failure
 

Wild

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Appoint conservative and constitutional supreme court judges

Get legislation passed for congressional term limits

Repeal Obamacare and get legislation passed for insurance companies to compete across state lines

Enforce current illegal immigration laws, and implement tougher vetting of refugees

Commit to making inner cities safer, smarter, and wealthier

Eliminate common core

Pose tariffs on companies that want to lay off thousands of Americans, make their product in other countries, and sell it back across our border

Eliminate unnecessary regulations that are killing our businesses (natural gas, coal, etc)

Lower taxes on businesses and the middle class

Negotiate better trade deals

Much less policing of other countries, and invest that money into America


If he can accomplish all of those things, I would consider his presidency great. 75% very good. 50% good. Less than 50% a failure.
 

IschKabibble

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The only noticeable impact Obama had on my life was doubling my healthcare premiums. If Trump successfully repeals that hot garbage, I'll consider his entire presidency a success.

Failure would be any kind of sexual misconduct while in office. But that's highly unlikely.
 

delightone

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As an outsider Obamacare seems like a good thing, can someone eleborate on why it's a bad thing.
 

KWingJitsu

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As an outsider Obamacare seems like a good thing, can someone eleborate on why it's a bad thing.
Beause well-earning people have to pay more for the insurance they get...
Those horrible low-earning people get it for free.
 
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There is a recession coming soon.
Weather that without blowing the economy up and increase median income.

Champion a point/skills based immigration reform. Strong but compassionate solution for those here illegally.

Fix the VA.

Implement planned childcare program.

Undo Obamacare disaster. I'll accept multiple fixes.

Lobbyist reforms as outlined.

Give the Dems a big olive branch somewhere in year one. don't care about the issue. Just give a win so others can be included in our government that disagree with us.

Deficit/debt plan started.

Reduce foreign military involvement.

Any large American works or vision program. We have nothing to Rally behind as a nation. I can list dozens. But I care less about the type of project and more about shooting for the moon.
 

IschKabibble

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As an outsider Obamacare seems like a good thing, can someone eleborate on why it's a bad thing.
Obamacare was a money-grab for the insurance companies. It was mandated that all citizens purchase a private insurance plan or face a monetary fine. There were some good provisions, like mandatory coverage of pre-existing conditions, and subsidized coverage for the least wealthy, but it's been a financial disaster for everybody else.

Premiums skyrocketed. And even if you had the coverage for relatively cheap, you'd be stuck with a ridiculous deductible to cover. There's nothing affordable about the Affordable Care Act.
 

Greenbean

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Beaune="delightone, post: 624986, member: 8"]As an outsider Obamacare seems like a good thing, can someone eleborate on why it's a bad thing.
Beause well-earning people have to pay more for the insurance they get...
Those horrible low-earning people get it for free.[/QUOTE]
My dad drives a city bus. Not exactly an elite and he is getting hammered in insurance. Everyone I know is.
 
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As an outsider Obamacare seems like a good thing, can someone eleborate on why it's a bad thing.

When you look at the numbers of people that have insurance it doesn't tell the whole story.
The deductibles are insane.

Every single one of my patients that has Obamacare has a minimum $3,000 deductible. Do you know a lot of poor people that have $3,000 free?

The program also comes with tons of things like "meaningful use" in electronic medical records that simply slows down patient care but increases billing specificity.

The entire system is made on me making sure to say my patients really sick in the computer, not making sure my patients really well.
 

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Beaune="delightone, post: 624986, member: 8"]As an outsider Obamacare seems like a good thing, can someone eleborate on why it's a bad thing.
Beause well-earning people have to pay more for the insurance they get...
Those horrible low-earning people get it for free.[/QUOTE]
What do you consider well earning? Someone with a job? I actually lost my healthcare because of obamacare and had to go out of pocket because it was mandated. Not sure about you but i dont have a extra 500 a month

I actually paid the penalty the first few years. Thanks Obama
 

Kingtony87

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As an outsider Obamacare seems like a good thing, can someone eleborate on why it's a bad thing.
I current pay 5000 a year in insurance premiums and my insurance company will not cover anything until I pay the first 12000 out of pocket.
 

Kingtony87

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Give the Dems a big olive branch somewhere in year one. don't care about the issue. Just give a win so others can be included in our government that disagree with us.
I'm betting not going after gay marriage and abortion are his olive branches.
 

Yossarian

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The only noticeable impact Obama had on my life was doubling my healthcare premiums. If Trump successfully repeals that hot garbage, I'll consider his entire presidency a success.

Failure would be any kind of sexual misconduct while in office. But that's highly unlikely.
This right here. For the first time people were really impacted, with money taken out of their pcoket, a glorified taxation if you will. The affordable care act was never affordable. I know many of people that were put in a tough spot because of the affordable care act. We have healthcare insurances fleeing the state here in Ohio. I am on my third insurance now... Nobody wanted this. Not like this anyways.

Another thing is the re-examination of trade agreements. Yes, they keep telling us how good it is for us, and that we get jobs. But here in the midwest, they've been dissapearing ever since. Those people have spoken last night.

If he does those things, he's done more than Obama done for us. And I was happy to see him elected.

But we have to be realistic, Trump is a populist, he can say it, but can he also do it?
 

Yossarian

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As an outsider Obamacare seems like a good thing, can someone eleborate on why it's a bad thing.
That is what most of my family thinbks as well, but would this be implemented in the Netherlands, they would fucking torch The Hague... people would torch Rutten and smoke him like Mexican ditch weed.
 

Zeph

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She's a sharp woman and will do well with whatever role he asks her to fill. Say what you want about Trump but he has some talented kids.
What are the achievements of his sons?
 

kneeblock

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When you look at the numbers of people that have insurance it doesn't tell the whole story.
The deductibles are insane.

Every single one of my patients that has Obamacare has a minimum $3,000 deductible. Do you know a lot of poor people that have $3,000 free?

The program also comes with tons of things like "meaningful use" in electronic medical records that simply slows down patient care but increases billing specificity.

The entire system is made on me making sure to say my patients really sick in the computer, not making sure my patients really well.
Don't you think the rejection of the medicaid expansion is playing a big part in your state's lack of affordability though? and meaningful use wasn't part of the Affordable Care Act. It came from another bill (HITECH) as part of the 2009 stimulus.
 
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and meaningful use wasn't part of the Affordable Care Act. It came from another bill (HITECH) as part of the 2009 stimulus
That is actually correct...my verbiage was wrong for for brevity and rolled the two together. Didn't mean to mislead.

My point is HOW the aca changed my EMR use to one of slowness and not on patient care -- The entire system is made on me making sure to say my patients really sick in the computer, not making sure my patients really well.

There are a number of billing and Reporting metrics that have been instituted for both insurance reasons and the paper reduction portion of the ACA reasons. I know why they are doing this, but the pace and heavy-handedness of it is not allowed the system to flex and automate anything. As such meeting the new requirements falls on me and others that normally do patient care. We were quickly asked to fly an airplane that was not ready.

Don't you think the rejection of the medicaid expansion is playing a big part in your state's lack of affordability though?

I haven't yet touched the interaction between the federal government and the state and Medicaid expansion.

I specifically talking about patients that have Federal exchange program insurance policies.
To my knowledge those individuals plans are not impacted whether the state chooses to expand Medicaid or not. They're simply the standardized plans and may or may not qualify for a subsidy for the premium.
 

delightone

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When you look at the numbers of people that have insurance it doesn't tell the whole story.
The deductibles are insane.

Every single one of my patients that has Obamacare has a minimum $3,000 deductible. Do you know a lot of poor people that have $3,000 free?

The program also comes with tons of things like "meaningful use" in electronic medical records that simply slows down patient care but increases billing specificity.

The entire system is made on me making sure to say my patients really sick in the computer, not making sure my patients really well.
Well isn't a $3,000 deductible better than having no healthcare, i rather owe $3,000 than lets say a $80,000
By the way, i'm not trying to attack, i'm trying to understand.