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Splinty said:
Remember when the left was talking about the cold war being over?? I remember...


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Looks like you guys should have listened to one of your own.

I'm far from a partisan man and I have seen Putin for what he truly is since day 1. I'm from a Russian family that lived under the true totalitarian despotism of the KGB and men like Putin. The war never ended in his mind.

There is no chance of any relationship between him and the West that is not adversarial unless NATO sends him a letter of surrender.

He has spurned the attempts of two previous administrations already, one republican and one democrat.

He's all up in your kitchen and he's cooking eggs.
 
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And on another misplaced serious note why would anyone least of all Trump be surprised that Obama is trying to undermine him? What's next he'll spend 6 years asking for Trumps longform birth certificate am I right?

Heyoooo

Fuck I'm smart like Trump
 
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Hot Rod said:
Looks like you guys should have listened to one of your own.
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You have to understand that we are not Republican supporters in this thread. Most have a total disdain for Romney.
He's not one of our own.

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I'm far from a partisan man and I have seen Putin for what he truly is since day 1. I'm from a Russian family that lived under the true totalitarian despotism of the KGB and men like Putin. The war never ended in his mind.
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We know what he is. And Saddam, and ghaddafi, and...

Does that mean we should continue a game of brinkmanship in proxy wars? Should we institute policies that are intentionally inflammatory like no fly zones where we either weaker our position or start a war killing Russian pilots?

There is a position between "let's continue antagonizing Russia as they are doing" and "Russia can be best friends with us!!"
 
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Splinty said:
You have to understand that we are not Republican supporters in this thread. Most have a total disdain for Romney.
He's not one of our own.



We know what he is. And Saddam, and ghaddafi, and...

Does that mean we should continue a game of brinkmanship in proxy wars? Should we institute policies that are intentionally inflammatory like no fly zones where we either weaker our position or start a war killing Russian pilots?

There is a position between "let's continue antagonizing Russia as they are doing" and "Russia can be best friends with us!!"
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I don't see anyone antagonizing Russia. If anything it's the opposite.

Every time the West has extended good will and intentions to him he has taken it and wiped his ass with it.

He is an entirely different beast from Saddam and Ghadafi.

He has a chip on his shoulder and will always be trying to outmaneuver the West and reclaim an imagined Soviet glory.

Putin will keep pushing until pushed back. He huffed and puffed when Turkey shot down his plane but he did nothing.

His goal is subversion not confrontation. There is nothing short of returning the former Soviet republics and letting him run amok that will appease him.
 
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Hot Rod said:
Putin will keep pushing until pushed back. He huffed and puffed when Turkey shot down his plane but he did nothing.

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That's not true. On the 1 year anniversary Russian planes accidentally hit Turkish soldiers with an airstrike.
 
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Zeph said:
That's not true. On the 1 year anniversary Russian planes accidentally hit Turkish soldiers with an airstrike.
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Oh did not know.

But it goes with what I said: subversion not out right confrontation.
 
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KWingJitsu said:
Dipshit shouldn't have used an unsecured email server and it wouldn't have been hacked. Ohh wait!!!!!!.... Damn.
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You mean AOL's perfectly secure server? And the emails that were obtained via public record request? Ohh wait!!!!!!!...... Damn.
 
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Support him or not, you must admit, Trump as president has been a total circus and shit show on both sides. As expected.
 
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Otis B. Driftwood said:
Support him or not, you must admit, Trump as president has been a total circus and shit show on both sides. As expected.
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All except the 'both sides' part.
Anything on the other side regarding this whole wiretap nonsense is made up by Trumpaloopas ... i.e #FakeNews
 
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KWingJitsu said:
Anything on the other side regarding this whole wiretap nonsense is made up by Trumpaloopas ... i.e #FakeNews
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Well that is obvious, has Trump followed up with any proof yet other than that shitty Breitbart report that ran on Thursday night?

A fucking president getting his information from Breitbart... What has America come too?
 
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IschKabibble said:
Script has officially been flipped.


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James Comey has denied Obama asked for a wiretap. There is no evidence, that I've seen, that Obama was in anyway involved. They're making baseless counter claims to muddy the waters.
 
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Zeph said:
James Comey has denied Obama asked for a wiretap. There is no evidence, that I've seen, that Obama was in anyway involved. They're making baseless counter claims to muddy the waters.
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Comey lost all of his credibility when he detailed all of Hillary's crimes, then remarked that the crime wasn't worth prosecuting. He's team Clinton.

 
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EXCLUSIVE: FBI ‘Granted FISA Warrant’ Covering Trump Camp’s Ties To Russia

By Louise Mensch | 10:18 pm, November 7, 2016

Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.

Contrary to earlier reporting in the New York Times, which cited FBI sources as saying that the agency did not believe that the private server in Donald Trump’s Trump Tower which was connected to a Russian bank had any nefarious purpose, the FBI’s counter-intelligence arm, sources say, re-drew an earlier FISA court request around possible financial and banking offenses related to the server. The first request, which, sources say, named Trump, was denied back in June, but the second was drawn more narrowly and was granted in October after evidence was presented of a server, possibly related to the Trump campaign, and its alleged links to two banks; SVB Bank and Russia’s Alfa Bank. While the Times story speaks of metadata, sources suggest that a FISA warrant was granted to look at the full content of emails and other related documents that may concern US persons.

EXCLUSIVE: FBI ‘Granted FISA Warrant’ Covering Trump Camp’s Ties To Russia
 
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IschKabibble said:
EXCLUSIVE: FBI ‘Granted FISA Warrant’ Covering Trump Camp’s Ties To Russia

By Louise Mensch | 10:18 pm, November 7, 2016

Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.

Contrary to earlier reporting in the New York Times, which cited FBI sources as saying that the agency did not believe that the private server in Donald Trump’s Trump Tower which was connected to a Russian bank had any nefarious purpose, the FBI’s counter-intelligence arm, sources say, re-drew an earlier FISA court request around possible financial and banking offenses related to the server. The first request, which, sources say, named Trump, was denied back in June, but the second was drawn more narrowly and was granted in October after evidence was presented of a server, possibly related to the Trump campaign, and its alleged links to two banks; SVB Bank and Russia’s Alfa Bank. While the Times story speaks of metadata, sources suggest that a FISA warrant was granted to look at the full content of emails and other related documents that may concern US persons.

EXCLUSIVE: FBI ‘Granted FISA Warrant’ Covering Trump Camp’s Ties To Russia
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Even if that is true, it would be for the FBI at their request, and not because of Obama.
 
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Zeph said:
Even if that is true, it would be for the FBI at their request, and not because of Obama.
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They denied the first request and granted the second. And if they found anything significant, it would be front page news by now.
 
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