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Freeloading Rusty

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Jan 11, 2016
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I'm not implying anything. I'm stating that there's been an increase in MMR occurrences in people too young or otherwise unable to receive the vaccine since the anti-vax movement begun gaining popularity.

The non-vax movement is strong here on hippie ass Vancouver Island, needless to say, it causes issues in the school systems.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Jan 11, 2016
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I really don't want to engage this subject anymore with folks that have no real world experience with it.
My heart goes out to you and your daughter.

But this is actually what might make you bias towards the situation, you are unable to look at it with an open mind after having to experience that.
 

kneeblock

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Apr 18, 2015
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Before this thread got heavy I just came to say that the resurgence of flat earthers is the most incredible thing I've seen in all my years on this earth.

It's really an amazing time to be alive.
 

sparkuri

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Jan 16, 2015
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My heart goes out to you and your daughter.

But this is actually what might make you bias towards the situation, you are unable to look at it with an open mind after having to experience that.

Let me pose a question.
If this happened to you, would that counterpoint not cross your mind?

I'm not anti-vaccine, I'm anti-anti liberty.

Until I'm dead or they're of an I age I deem ready to let go, they're my responsibility.

Remember, science is nothing more than investigating what's already in front of us.
For hundreds of years black plague was a mystery, then for the last hundred it's been taught that it was caused by the feces of mites/fleas in rats.
And it still is, even though it's now thought that is inaccurate.
Scientific fact changes with time, as soon as new variables come to light, and they always will.
My scientific theory is, I'd have to be a fucking idiot to trust another needle in my kids arm if she wasn't on deaths doorstep and there was nothing to lose anyway.
I'd hope the same blinders others think I may wear are not on those that feel there's any scientific proof the population of the world NEEDS VACCINES.
 

Filthy

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Jun 28, 2016
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what state requires an MMR vaccine? I thought they were only required for admittance to public schools?
 

Hwoarang

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Any stats on that?
Not stats, but you can find cases every where. Quick google search;

Perfectly fit and healthy 14 yo boy found dead in bed morning after vaccine.
Teen-age Boy Dies After Gardasil Vaccine – Lawsuit Filed in U.S.

"But concern over serious side effects and deaths following inoculations has grown enough for the Toronto Star to mount a lengthy investigation. It found more than 50 Canadian girls who developed serious medical conditions after their injections with Merck’s Gardasil (15 hospitalized) and in the U.S, more than 100 deaths and tens of thousands of reports of adverse effects."
Gardasil linked to deaths and disabilities after young girls vaccinated: Toronto Star investigation

"THE number of people who have died in Italy after being administered a flu vaccine made by Swiss pharmaceutical company Novartis has risen to 13."
Killer flu vaccine

"Seasonal flu vaccinations across Australia for children under five have been suspended after 23 children in Western Australia were admitted to hospital with convulsions following their injections.
One child, aged 1, remains in a coma in a Perth hospital."
Flu vaccination ban goes national after fever, convulsions in children
 

KWingJitsu

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Nov 15, 2015
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in a nutshell.

I blame weed and he internet for making people dumber.
Now any idiot can go to a fake news site and say "See? Cthulhu is manipulating the Dow Jones from his ocean lair. I read it on infowars."
 

stielar

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Dec 30, 2015
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I also agree that flat earth and vaccinations are a completely different topic. There have been actual deaths due to vaccinations. On the other hand, no one ever died because he fell from the earth's edge.
 

GSPTrainingInAPool

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Dec 1, 2015
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Gravity is hoax bro. The power of the good lord keeps our feet firmly planted on the ground. He's got his finger pushing each and every one of us down
 
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I don't know enough about the topic as to whether they actually went to the moon or not (my guess is they did) but some of the footage sure looks fucking fake.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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Dude, vaccines have caused death many times as well as a whole bunch of serious debilitating disabilities.
Is this where you pretend there are more deaths linked to receiving vaccines than there are from the diseases they vaccinate against?
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Jan 11, 2016
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Not stats, but you can find cases every where. Quick google search;

Perfectly fit and healthy 14 yo boy found dead in bed morning after vaccine.
Teen-age Boy Dies After Gardasil Vaccine – Lawsuit Filed in U.S.

"But concern over serious side effects and deaths following inoculations has grown enough for the Toronto Star to mount a lengthy investigation. It found more than 50 Canadian girls who developed serious medical conditions after their injections with Merck’s Gardasil (15 hospitalized) and in the U.S, more than 100 deaths and tens of thousands of reports of adverse effects."
Gardasil linked to deaths and disabilities after young girls vaccinated: Toronto Star investigation

"THE number of people who have died in Italy after being administered a flu vaccine made by Swiss pharmaceutical company Novartis has risen to 13."
Killer flu vaccine

"Seasonal flu vaccinations across Australia for children under five have been suspended after 23 children in Western Australia were admitted to hospital with convulsions following their injections.
One child, aged 1, remains in a coma in a Perth hospital."
Flu vaccination ban goes national after fever, convulsions in children

I think I could find a couple cases to back up any claims.

Until you can provide scientifically peer reviewed statistics that state vaccines cause more harm than they prevent.....
 

Yossarian

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I am sure vaccines have a serious effect on numerous children. I don't believe vaccines are perfect and there are exceptions. But without vaccines, what are the number of victims then? Maybe we are still at a point, that our solution to outbreaks such as Rubella, Polio, Measles, etc. is not without a price. We cannot disregard that, but nor should we disregard vaccination. My heart goes out to parents with these questions, it is truely heartbreaking to wonder what if. I've been in that position myself.

This topic should never be politicized.

Many of these diseases are still around, but they have been significantly lowered due to vaccination. That is a fact we should consider before entering the debate.
 

Hwoarang

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Is this where you pretend there are more deaths linked to receiving vaccines than there are from the diseases they vaccinate against?
No. Just sounded like you were grossly misinformed that vaccines were completely safe and that the only alleged harm caused was autism. Which clearly is not the case.
 

Yossarian

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Gravity is hoax bro. The power of the good lord keeps our feet firmly planted on the ground. He's got his finger pushing each and every one of us down
This makes sense to me. It explains why we get shorter as we age. Nobel price for this guy.