Impeached for what exactly?
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Curious if this thread will become a ghost town again as soon as the collusion narrative falls apart as a cover up job.
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Democrat Asks, Why Is Intelligence Community Trying to Up-End President With These Leaks?
First of all, I read the Washington Post story very carefully. And more than that, I spent 16 years in the United States Congress tracking all these things said about foreign policy.
There is a high B.S. quotient going on right here. And the meter should be going off all over town. We don't need to look to Russia for affirmation. We need to ask questions -- why is this intelligence community trying to up-end the president of the United States with these leaks? Here is the Post story… it’s all over town, people are saying the president did this and that.
Look, I disagree with President Trump on a number of issues, but on this one there can only be one president, and somebody in the intelligence community is trying to up-end this president in order to pursue a policy direction that puts us in conflict with Russia. The question is, why? And who? And we need to find out.
If the information revealed by Trump was so sensitive, “then why did Intel leak it to the Washington Post?” Kucinich asked. “Whoever leaked it undermined the alliance. And that person or persons should be dealt with severely.
“Now, as far as the Intel community, something’s out of control here. And there is an effort here to up end the relationship with Russia, put us at odds," Kucinich continued.
“It started during the Obama administration in October of 2016 when there was a peace agreement, or an agreement to end the conflict with Syria, and all of a sudden it was up-ended by people in the Pentagon and C.I.A. So that they were basically making policy over the president's head. Look, we have one president and he is being undermined by some people in intelligence.”
First of all, I read the Washington Post story very carefully. And more than that, I spent 16 years in the United States Congress tracking all these things said about foreign policy.
There is a high B.S. quotient going on right here. And the meter should be going off all over town. We don't need to look to Russia for affirmation. We need to ask questions -- why is this intelligence community trying to up-end the president of the United States with these leaks? Here is the Post story… it’s all over town, people are saying the president did this and that.
Look, I disagree with President Trump on a number of issues, but on this one there can only be one president, and somebody in the intelligence community is trying to up-end this president in order to pursue a policy direction that puts us in conflict with Russia. The question is, why? And who? And we need to find out.
If the information revealed by Trump was so sensitive, “then why did Intel leak it to the Washington Post?” Kucinich asked. “Whoever leaked it undermined the alliance. And that person or persons should be dealt with severely.
“Now, as far as the Intel community, something’s out of control here. And there is an effort here to up end the relationship with Russia, put us at odds," Kucinich continued.
“It started during the Obama administration in October of 2016 when there was a peace agreement, or an agreement to end the conflict with Syria, and all of a sudden it was up-ended by people in the Pentagon and C.I.A. So that they were basically making policy over the president's head. Look, we have one president and he is being undermined by some people in intelligence.”
Family of slain DNC staffer Seth Rich criticizes right-wing media's role in igniting new conspiracy in murder case
The family of Seth Rich, a slain Democratic National Committee staffer, criticized media outlets and people who they suggested used a new report about Rich's contacts before his death as validation of their political ideology.
Late Monday, a private investigator affiliated with the Rich family told Fox 5, a Washington, DC, outlet, that before being fatally shot in July, Rich had contacts with WikiLeaks, which released internal DNC emails last year.
Rod Wheeler, the investigator, who the Rich family said is paid by a third party, suggested the Metropolitan Police Department attempted to cover up the nature of Rich's death on behalf of the DNC, which the police department denied on Tuesday.
The Fox 5 report was featured prominently by top right-leaning outlets, including Breitbart News, the Drudge Report, Fox News, and the "Fox & Friends" morning show.
Asked about the attention the new report received from right-leaning outlets, Brad Bauman, a representative for the Rich family, said the family condemned the attempt to politicize Rich's death.
"It's sad but unsurprising that a group of media outlets who have repeatedly lied to the American people would try and manipulate the legacy of a murder victim in order to forward their own political agenda," Bauman told Business Insider. "I think there is a special place in hell for people like that."
Many top right-leaning outlets have dismissed intelligence and law-enforcement findings that Russia hacked and leaked private DNC emails in which top staffers were hostile to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders during the 2016 Democratic primary.
The insinuation that Rich leaked the emails has reignited the claim online that Rich's dissatisfaction with the DNC, not Russian interference, influenced the election. On Monday, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange retweeted the Fox 5 story.
Rich's family said Wheeler's assertions were "unsubstantiated claims" and that they saw "no facts, we have seen no evidence, we have been approached with no emails and only learned about this when contacted by the press."
"Even if tomorrow an email was found, it is not a high enough bar of evidence to prove any interactions as emails can be altered, and we've seen that those interested in pushing conspiracies will stop at nothing to do so," the family said in a statement.
The family's statement continued:
"We are a family who is committed to facts, not fake evidence that surfaces every few months to fill the void and distract law enforcement and the general public from finding Seth's murderers. The services of the private investigator who spoke to press was offered to the Rich family and paid for by a third party, and contractually was barred from speaking to press or anyone outside of law enforcement or the family unless explicitly authorized by the family."
you're pushing fake news
This entire thread is fake news!
There has definitely been part of the intelligence services that are pushing for regime change in Syria, and that is a problem and concern. It doesn't excuse what Trump did, though.
What did he do?
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He was extremely careless with classified information that was shared by an ally. He didn't consult with them before sharing the information and jeopardized those agreements in the future. If other countries feel like they cannot trust the U.S. President to handle information they will think twice about sharing that information in the future.
As of now it's all heresay and rumors. We now have Special Counsel to decipher fact from fiction.
No that's for the Russian collusion and Trump's alleged attempt to shutdown the investigation. Trump himself confirmed he shared information with the Russian.
lol @ this dismissal.
"Even if tomorrow an email was found, it is not a high enough bar of evidence to prove any interactions as emails can be altered, and we've seen that those interested in pushing conspiracies will stop at nothing to do so,"
So even if the emails are found, they're most likely altered. Sounds like a familiar cop out.
Because they follow any possible leads like good police? Some PI paid for by a third party thinks there are emails on the laptop, but has never seen any of them. He also wasn't supposed to go to the press without the Families consent, has shown no evidence to the family he claims to be working for, and this is somehow evidence to you?@Zeph, why did they collect his laptop?
The Special Counsel completely applies here as well...if these accusations were not hanging over this admin, no one would bat an eye and it would be a non story. Mueller's scope is not limited to just Russia Trump accusations from what I've read...all things Russia and our elections is what I read.
Its an all inclusive investigation as far as it appears.
Yes but its not confirmed what he shared, still heresay and rumors as to the info.
He was Democratically elected to office as Commander in Chief...if he wants to discuss something its his priority to do so. If it's frowned upon or considered careless by others, tough. Leaders routinely get criticism, Trump is so polarizing that every thing he does is amplified. No laws were broken(as far we know), its his prerogative to operate how he sees fit within the law and his sworn oath.
If he shared this exact info with the UK or Germany etc. This would be nothing I suspect. Its a story because its the scary Russians.
His detractors are butt hurt and are grasping at every misstep or imperfect act as an impeachable offense. Quite comical really.
Republicans just spent a whole election lambasting the Democratic candidate for being careless with information, rightfully so. Now Trump is doing it. To not call him out on it as well is hypocritical.
At what point do you start to take circumstantial evidence into consideration?
View: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/792875315920048128
that was a joke, but the congressional GOP does a great imitation of the Washington Generals regularly
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