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You want your grass mowed for $30 a cut?
No way you're getting that price with a couple fucking gringos holding weed wackers.
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No way you're getting that price with a couple fucking gringos holding weed wackers.
And better be damn sure it's going to be called Amoonica.
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We have to keep them as ignorant and in the dark as possible so that they don't abuse our social services.
Hey, that's three cups of coffe plus tip at the local star bucks
Or better yet, welcome immigrants through proper channels and allow them to flourish here in the US, but paying their part for the oppertunity they now have.
Dipilomatic immunety..
Subsidized human labor and de facto slave labor prevent us from advancing to whatever technology is most appropriate for the job. It makes businesses reliant on this artificial labor pool.
We only have as many fast food workers because of the government providing them cheap healthcare, housing, groceries. Otherwise, businesses would be forced to weigh the REAL cost of manual labor or versus automating.
As a well to-do taxpayer, I'd prefer my burger and other services cost the reality up front, instead of hiding on my April tax return (and decades of hidden ledgers in the national debt)
That's exactly what it costs to get gringos to do it in Southeast Texas.
Local bubba's got into the mowing industry when, coincidentally, the construction industry cratered.
But this is a common appeal. You say they won't, but you have to then tell me what the cost difference would be since you know it can't be done for that rate.
Is it 5 bucks more? 3? That's the missing piece for this to really have merit in weighing pros and cons.
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Btw thanks for the tip about claiming a tablet purchase on my tax return.
I never actually bought a tablet, but I did claim one.
There are so many variables you aren't addressing I could never pretend to have an answer to that question.
Alex Tabarrok is a right wing libertarian. I'm not sure what kind of liberal friends you have unless they're stoners from Austin.
The premise of a thought experiment is elaboration. The burden of addressing variables is on the people who indulge in the experiment. Otherwise why comment at all?
We're talking whichever scenario you feel is more likely or workable. Do you feel open borders are only possible with continued national sovereignty? Do you think national sovereignty is feasible if citizens can freely go where they choose?
I think there will be borders if there is lunar or Martian colonization, albeit not corresponding to national borders.
I also think that's still over a century away.
Are you seriously suggesting in this post that low wage jobs only exist due to government entitlement programs?
Huh?
No, not at all.
He's suggest that companies are taking advantage of those programs to pay below a living wage, and he's right. Companies like Walmart are heavily subsidized by the taxpayer because many of their employees need benefits to live, while Walmart posts record profits and their owners are some of the richest people on the planet.
Yep one family owns a MSH right?
MSH?
Majority share holding. Dont worry I made it up
Yes, the Waltons.
Nah. Sooner than most people think.
Nasa planning ‘Earth Independent’ Mars colony by 2030s
It will be interesting to see who attempts borders on there. It will never work. Colonies, sure, borders, not so much.
I wouldn't say the corporations think about the benefits one way or another. They pay what they pay and mostly benefit in regions with low standards of living that have been abandoned by other industries. Wal-mart is a cannibal that mostly comes to pick on the dessicated corpse of once thriving conmunities. Locals can't resist the discounts and abandon local businesses because of their own depressed wages. Also because of the convenience of course.
The employees can attempt unionization or states and municipalities can regulate wages through minimum wage laws, but collective corporate power usually conspires against both. There is no free market competing for labor in regions like these, which cover vast swaths of the US and certainly the majority of the world. These are the consequences of the free market. Entitlements have a small distortion effect, but if they vanished, I'm not sure there wouldn't be Wal-Marts undercutting workers. We already see the digital version of Wal-Mart thriving in places like India and Pakistan with Amazon Mechanical Turk.
In an open border scenario, this Wal-Martification would likely spread like a cancer, though it already is online where there is next to no regulation of labor practices.
Whether they are consciously doing it or not is irrelevant to the fact they are doing it. I agree that regulation is the answer.