Using someone's race and gender in an argument is going to be offensive. If the goal is to get democratically elected, it's probably not a good idea to alienate a huge portion of the voter base.Facts hurt now? lol.
Using someone's race and gender in an argument is going to be offensive. If the goal is to get democratically elected, it's probably not a good idea to alienate a huge portion of the voter base.Facts hurt now? lol.
Exhibit A:If the goal is to get democratically elected, it's probably not a good idea to alienate a huge portion of the voter base.
I actually agree with that.Using someone's race and gender in an argument is going to be offensive. If the goal is to get democratically elected, it's probably not a good idea to alienate a huge portion of the voter base.
That's not true. They also described him as a foreign-born Muslim.I actually agree with that.
My point which I didn't expand on, is I found it funny that the same people who described this guy:
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as pejoratively "the black guy", "the black candidate", "the black president" etc... would hypocritically take issue with the tables being turned... when that's all they ever described him as.
and a commieThat's not true. They also described him as a foreign-born Muslim.
This is all about claiming your oneness.The truth is in my name
Its all about feeling the Bern homieThis is all about claiming your oneness.
Trump is our only hope.Its all about feeling the Bern homie
Never thought I'd say this, but good post.People didn't want to vote for Hillary. If they had a more likeable candidate, they would have won.
Additional ideas:
* Obamacare is a cluster fuck. I like the socialised healthcare we have here but it's completely different.
* Give up on the gun control thing. The evidence is against them and it's constitutionally protected.
* Drop the SJW bollocks. There are anti discrimination policies in place, leave it at that.
So those are things to stop doing, cos they piss people off and don't offer much. What they SHOULD be campaigning on is:
* Keeping minimum wage in line with the rest of the western world. Not this $15/hr nonsense but raising it sensibly.
* Highlighting that illegal immigration has been reducing and they will continue to reduce it.
* Regulating universities to keep their fees reasonable so that more people from working class backgrounds can afford higher education.
* Regulating the broken health insurance system so that you (or your employer) aren't paying a third of your salary in premiums.
* Reducing the insane level of military spending to invest back into the people. More money for schools, emergency services and possibly subsidising your healthcare system. This would be a tough sell, so it would have to be marketed properly.
Also good point.I actually agree with that.
My point which I didn't expand on, is I found it funny that the same people who described this guy:
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as pejoratively "the black guy", "the black candidate", "the black president" etc... would hypocritically take issue with the tables being turned... when that's all they ever described him as.
I agree here. If we need a reason to keep military spending at its current level, we need to use our inventory. Best places would be any middle eastern country, china, north Korea (hopefully the last two would be simultaneous strikes) and places with names ending in 'stan'.People didn't want to vote for Hillary. If they had a more likeable candidate, they would have won.
Additional ideas:
* Obamacare is a cluster fuck. I like the socialised healthcare we have here but it's completely different.
* Give up on the gun control thing. The evidence is against them and it's constitutionally protected.
* Drop the SJW bollocks. There are anti discrimination policies in place, leave it at that.
So those are things to stop doing, cos they piss people off and don't offer much. What they SHOULD be campaigning on is:
* Keeping minimum wage in line with the rest of the western world. Not this $15/hr nonsense but raising it sensibly.
* Highlighting that illegal immigration has been reducing and they will continue to reduce it.
* Regulating universities to keep their fees reasonable so that more people from working class backgrounds can afford higher education.
* Regulating the broken health insurance system so that you (or your employer) aren't paying a third of your salary in premiums.
* Reducing the insane level of military spending to invest back into the people. More money for schools, emergency services and possibly subsidising your healthcare system. This would be a tough sell, so it would have to be marketed properly.
I don't think universal healthcare will carry dems through. It was more the butt ramming part that was instructive.Do you think that universal healthcare will be enough of an issue on its own to pull the Democrats into a leading position?
Or put this another way, if Obamacare was never run through, do you think things could have got bad enough during the economic downturn to see acceptance of a single-payer system?
Sort of.Also good point.
It was more the butt ramming part that was instructive.
Great post. Agreed on all points. But the DNC drama still hasn't entirely unfolded. Investigation into Loretta Lynch's actions leading up to the election (direct influence of Comey's verbiage, infamous tarmac meeting) just got started. There's still a chance Dems go the way of the history books if someone with big enough balls can take advantage of the vacuum they've left.People didn't want to vote for Hillary. If they had a more likeable candidate, they would have won.
Additional ideas:
* Obamacare is a cluster fuck. I like the socialised healthcare we have here but it's completely different.
* Give up on the gun control thing. The evidence is against them and it's constitutionally protected.
* Drop the SJW bollocks. There are anti discrimination policies in place, leave it at that.
So those are things to stop doing, cos they piss people off and don't offer much. What they SHOULD be campaigning on is:
* Keeping minimum wage in line with the rest of the western world. Not this $15/hr nonsense but raising it sensibly.
* Highlighting that illegal immigration has been reducing and they will continue to reduce it.
* Regulating universities to keep their fees reasonable so that more people from working class backgrounds can afford higher education.
* Regulating the broken health insurance system so that you (or your employer) aren't paying a third of your salary in premiums.
* Reducing the insane level of military spending to invest back into the people. More money for schools, emergency services and possibly subsidising your healthcare system. This would be a tough sell, so it would have to be marketed properly.
I disagree. If you have parties representing different groups, the one that gets in will be good for them but probably not for everyone else.In my view, the Dems should simply stay the course with their current platform, but focus on more grass roots approaches to campaigning on their agenda. I don't think parties should adjust their planks to win over more people. I just think we need more parties that represent the interests and ideologies of the diverse groupings of people.
In my view, the Dems should simply stay the course with their current platform, but focus on more grass roots approaches to campaigning on their agenda. I don't think parties should adjust their planks to win over more people. I just think we need more parties that represent the interests and ideologies of the diverse groupings of people.
GOP basically campaigned on being the party of no 8 years and it backfired for the existing leadership. Trump (ironically) represents a revolution in that party as the apotheosis of establishment rejection. Dems can't use the same strategy because doing so would admit the administration was credible. To win, Dems need to get to work in communities trying to lead initiatives that are part of their platform and then show voters how Repubs are preventing them from getting off the ground. Take politics out of abstraction and into policies that effect daily life.
The trouble with this past election is it wasn't contested over policy at all. When you look at the analytics, news media articles about personality vs policy were done at a ratio of 3:1. Trump held a masterclass on making the election mostly about perceptions rather than reality. I think there's little to learn from this election from a policy standpoint. As the administration has tried to craft actual policies and follow their agenda, they've pretty much been stymied at every turn by popular sentiment or actual law (e.g. healthcare repeal, travel ban). We find few knew what ACA was or how it worked (a failure of the Dems), few know what happened during the Obama administration, few have any idea what Trump's plans are for the state besides "elites bad, me elite, but good one."I disagree. If you have parties representing different groups, the one that gets in will be good for them but probably not for everyone else.
I would much rather have a government that works in the best interests of everyone.
Also, staying the course on a platform that couldn't even beat Trump seems pretty foolhardy to me. I only held back a drunk rating out of politeness.