General Terror attack at Mandalay Bay

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Andrewsimar Palhardass

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Ya man
It's disgusting honestly
The guy is displaying pretty much exactly what I would expect from myself

Been telling them they're idiots
My brother has fallen for the whole "crisis actor" thing, saying that people don't look sad enough.

Our mom died suddenly in 2008. I asked him if he was interviewed the next day would he be bawling and inconsolable? Shit, I played a baseball game the next day and she was my best friend.
 

Andrewsimar Palhardass

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Holy shit Twitter is flooded with misinformed people stating their opinions as fact. One Tweet I saw said at least 5 shooters were there. 5 shooters with modified or full auto weapons would have been hell on earth to the people there and anyone that would ever watch a video of it.
AND HE WAS CLEARLY ANTIFA ANTI-TRUMP SCUM!!!!!
 

Andrewsimar Palhardass

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see;
The Warren Commission Report - 9/11 Commission Report

Of course investigations at a high level with many police and professionals etc can be hijacked, and a replacement story inserted.

Stories like Sirhan Sirhan also come to mind... many situations imo where the perpetrator was guided, set up and 'allowed' to do something. I could list more. I would bet by now if such false flag operations are indeed a reality, their engineers are likely smarter than us, lol

Speculation with too much emotion or confidence is dangerous, but an open-mindedness to anti-status quo scenarios (ie; false flags) I think is perfectly rational for things like this. Trusting whatever story the MSM gives I think is downright naive. I also have some cop-friends who tell you that many times what the public gets/what the media tells us is total shite.

This assumption that the MSM version is the truth unless smoking evidence to the contrary can be produced I think it a bit frustrating. Question the official version = disrespect to the families? etc... its a terrible trap.
I don't doubt this, I just don't like what it leads to, because it typically gets more and more wild and irresponsible, and the real answers are never found or agreed upon. Leads to nothing, causes a bunch of bad things. Sounds like giving up, but I see it as reality.
 

b00ts

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AND HE WAS CLEARLY ANTIFA ANTI-TRUMP SCUM!!!!!
I don’t know if Lue addresses it, but there’s a picture going around of him at an anti-trump rally. It’s literally a random older white guy with a goatee that you can’t tell for sure, but the forensic specialist of Twitter are positive it’s him. Snopes has a clear photo that shows the men have completely different ear lobes.
 

Andrewsimar Palhardass

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I don’t know if Lue addresses it, but there’s a picture going around of him at an anti-trump rally. It’s literally a random older white guy with a goatee that you can’t tell for sure, but the forensic specialist of Twitter are positive it’s him. Snopes has a clear photo that shows the men have completely different ear lobes.
Yep. It's everywhere, and it just kinda looks like him. People are taking it as facts, because as I said, you need no qualifications to share important information anymore.
 
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I don't doubt this, I just don't like what it leads to, because it typically gets more and more wild and irresponsible, and the real answers are never found or agreed upon. Leads to nothing, causes a bunch of bad things. Sounds like giving up, but I see it as reality.
The alternatives are

a) accept Mainstream Media/Official Reports' version of events to put one's mind to rest

b) learn to be OK with not knowing & the reality of disinfo
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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Oh make no mistake I believe you. My friends have a group text message about this going and I'm trying to get them as much of the truth as possible and stop false beliefs they are hearing.

For example
A huge radio show in socal had a host basically saying he was likely a lifelong criminal who stole his fortune and must be the killer behind a long list of unsolved crimes.
Man, shit like that radio host just makes shit worse
That's a wild speculation considering there is nothing pointing in that direction
Plus we know the guy had some amazing jobs where he most likely did very well for himself
 

lueVelvet

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I don’t know if Lue addresses it, but there’s a picture going around of him at an anti-trump rally. It’s literally a random older white guy with a goatee that you can’t tell for sure, but the forensic specialist of Twitter are positive it’s him. Snopes has a clear photo that shows the men have completely different ear lobes.
The guy in the pink outfit was NOT him. I heard a voice in one video and it didn’t sound anything like Stephen.
 

nuraknu

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Sounds like he was starting to display some type of psychosis :(

Portrait emerging of Las Vegas shooter as man 'descending into madness'

At his local Starbucks, Las Vegas shooter remembered for berating his girlfriend

The Latest: Vegas gunman bought 33 weapons in last year

Started buying guns before election. Likely tried to target another festival a few weeks prior.
Probably not politically motivated.
Psychotic want for mass death = ?????? Insert whatever developing delusion he had.

I'm not a psychiatrist or any type of such expert. And I'm on the periphery like anyone. But it doesn't shock me that a guy so smart and compulsive to become a freaking expert high roller gambler for a living had serious mental health problems.
Idk, those articles you linked to don't really say much that indicates psychosis, and they don't describe the evidence of the rifle purchases - the opposite actually, just saying the government wouldn't have been alerted to the purchases.

I am open to believing it, but not based on those articles.
 
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Idk, those articles you linked to don't really say much that indicates psychosis, and they don't describe the evidence of the rifle purchases - the opposite actually, just saying the government wouldn't have been alerted to the purchases.

I am open to believing it, but not based on those articles.

One says he started buying October, pre election.

The other indicates increasingly berating behavior to girlfriend and sleepless appearance.

The third talks about poor hygiene and weight loss.


EDIT - tried to get a room a few weeks ago right next to another concert with an entirely different demographic, making concert specifics less likely beyond just a large crowd.
 

MMAHAWK

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Man, shit like that radio host just makes shit worse
That's a wild speculation considering there is nothing pointing in that direction
Plus we know the guy had some amazing jobs where he most likely did very well for himself
Everyone is looking for a reason that just doesn't seem to be there. This one hit close to us on the west coast so things seem to be really over the top compared to other US instances. Almost everyone I have talked to has some connection to someone there. Even a friend who had a friend there that survived this and Columbine in High school.
Vegas really is the getaway spot for many in the country. Crazy to see victims from so many different states.
 

Rambo John J

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One says he started buying October, pre election.

The other indicates increasingly berating behavior to girlfriend and sleepless appearance.

The third talks about poor hygiene and weight loss.


EDIT - tried to get a room a few weeks ago right next to another concert with an entirely different demographic, making concert specifics less likely beyond just a large crowd.
should be tons of footage of him if he is always in casinos

complete with audio...game floors have audio and video security

would be interesting to see him on some video acting one way or another.
 

Daglord

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I don't doubt this, I just don't like what it leads to, because it typically gets more and more wild and irresponsible, and the real answers are never found or agreed upon. Leads to nothing, causes a bunch of bad things. Sounds like giving up, but I see it as reality.
agree, I think people take their hate of MSM too far & it leads them to being more susceptible to shit like Infowars.

a lot of truth can be found in the mainstream (IMO), just need to connect the dots yourself.
 

MMAHAWK

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One says he started buying October, pre election.

The other indicates increasingly berating behavior to girlfriend and sleepless appearance.

The third talks about poor hygiene and weight loss.


EDIT - tried to get a room a few weeks ago right next to another concert with an entirely different demographic, making concert specifics less likely beyond just a large crowd.
Is it bad that I'm a bit relieved he didn't get a room at the hip hop concert? I can only imagine what the reaction would have been.
 

lueVelvet

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One says he started buying October, pre election.

The other indicates increasingly berating behavior to girlfriend and sleepless appearance.

The third talks about poor hygiene and weight loss.
Can’t speak to the purchases.

He wasn’t an angel. He would treate people (servers, waiters, hosts etc) like many rich people in Vegas. Maybe he was demanding or less sensitive when service wasn’t up to his standards etc.

His hygiene was never a concern for him. He always wore sweatpants and a comped casino polo and if they didn’t comp him any clothes he would just buy a polo in Walmart. It wouldn’t surprise me if he wore clothes for more than one day in a row. He lived care free meaning he didn’t give a shit about how he looked. Hell I’m not worth 1/10 of what he was and I dress like a slob most days because I work from home.

He was known to fluctuate his weight by 10-15lbs on any given month. Some months while he was out in the world he would fatten up then when he came home to Reno or LV he would drop the weight by going to the gym etc.

Again not trying to stick up for the shooter but these are our takes on these talking points based on what we knew about the guy.
 

Gay For Longo

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should be tons of footage of him if he is always in casinos

complete with audio...game floors have audio and video security

would be interesting to see him on some video acting one way or another.
There has been a video from 2015 of him on the Mandalay game floor
 

nuraknu

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One says he started buying October, pre election.

The other indicates increasingly berating behavior to girlfriend and sleepless appearance.

The third talks about poor hygiene and weight loss.
Yes, they don't say they followed credit card statements or anything like that. Unless I missed it, they don't say the bags under his eyes were new (video poker addict, right) or that the berating was new - it indicates that was typical behavior. The weight loss etc. is something someone was told, but no one says why they believe that - he at least still had a beer belly according to the Starbucks person.

I'm not saying it's not true, but the articles are really vague on what the actual evidence is, that's all I'm saying.
 

Andrewsimar Palhardass

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Is it bad that I'm a bit relieved he didn't get a room at the hip hop concert? I can only imagine what the reaction would have been.
I don't think we should hope anything in regards to an affiliation here. Seeing things as "thank god this doesn't hurt my side" is a dangerous road, my friend.
 

MMAHAWK

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I don't think we should hope anything in regards to an affiliation here. Seeing things as "thank god this doesn't hurt my side" is a dangerous road, my friend.
Wasn't really thinking of my side. More of the chaos that would likely be taking place in the streets for the last 3 days.
 

Andrewsimar Palhardass

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agree, I think people take their hate of MSM too far & it leads them to being more susceptible to shit like Infowars.

a lot of truth can be found in the mainstream (IMO), just need to connect the dots yourself.
Absolutely. You can watch MSM if you have an actual (not self-perceived) good bullshit detector, and get a good chunk of the story right. Certainly more than going on Twitter or YouTube.