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Shinkicker

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Even if everything he says is bullshit, if the timing on the frequencies from the video is correct then he has a valid point. Unless the human ear can tell the difference in 0.5 seconds and 0.3 seconds then the timing on the recording would seem more reliable. I'd like to see someone else with the right equipment analyze it.
 

b00ts

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Oct 21, 2015
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So that’s the new theory? That two shooters were so precise that they were able to fire completely in sync with one another? We base this off of a guy that is used to studying sound with high-end equipment in a controlled environment who is now analyzing the sound of gun fire uploaded to YouTube from a cellphone in an uncontrolled environment and he assures us he is correct because he shoots at a range?

I think I’m about done with this entire subject. Back to imgur to hunt memes
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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Stopped at 7:30 when he says that the snap of rounds cracking the sound barrier is rounds hitting pavement. Also, the report you hear from long distance CAN vary based on a heap of factors. I’ve heard 500m shots sound both low and high. Any hunter can tell you this if they’ve spent enough time in the same woods. A guy shooting at the same exact location can have two different sounds on different days based on direction of the shot, wind, atmospheric pressure, round used, etc. Sucks he made that long video to disprove his expertise within 10 minutes.
He does say he's not trained in this stuff lol but really tries to sell his knowledge of guns
Thanks for clearing it up bud :)
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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So that’s the new theory? That two shooters were so precise that they were able to fire completely in sync with one another? We base this off of a guy that is used to studying sound with high-end equipment in a controlled environment who is now analyzing the sound of gun fire uploaded to YouTube from a cellphone in an uncontrolled environment and he assures us he is correct because he shoots at a range?

I think I’m about done with this entire subject. Back to imgur to hunt memes
He's actually not trained in doing that at all, He even says it lol

It' going around so wanted to see if you guys could clear it up, which didn't take long lol
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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Is anybody here trained in stagnography?

I can do it a bit but really have no actual training
 
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Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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I firmly believe anyone analyzing this event with zero combat experience should be dropped into Syria so they can hear what incoming fire is and what it does to your psyche. You will never forget that sound and every intimate detail of it. I had long ago put that behind me and listening to these videos over and over has brought up a lot of shit that I had forgotten. Not in a bad way... I just get like a helpless anxiety feeling remembering some things, but this has also helped me to better explain things to people that have no experience with this and are trying to understand everything.
Can we just get audio lol
I really don't want to go to Syria
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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I firmly believe anyone analyzing this event with zero combat experience should be dropped into Syria so they can hear what incoming fire is and what it does to your psyche. You will never forget that sound and every intimate detail of it. I had long ago put that behind me and listening to these videos over and over has brought up a lot of shit that I had forgotten. Not in a bad way... I just get like a helpless anxiety feeling remembering some things, but this has also helped me to better explain things to people that have no experience with this and are trying to understand everything.
Appreciate your help homie
 
Jan 21, 2015
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Anyone here able/willing to summarize where this is all at right now?

I'm curious but haven't got my sleuthing cap on yet for this one... I dug quite deep into Sandy Hook, Aurora, Boston Bombing etc and they all made me ill lol and still got no solid answers, so my motivation to do it all again is somewhat weakened, lol. Plus this one has way more grisly videos of people getting killed etc just not willing to dive in but curious as to where the info so far has led the skeptics and conspriacy-minded...

I will keep trying to wade through this thread but maybe some of the info here is already outdated etc... any brief summaries on where the 'investigation' is leading at this point would be amazing

THANKS!
 
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Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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Another question
Who is the maintenance guy?

Was he coming to unscrew the hall door or was he there for a different reason?
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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Anyone here able/willing to summarize where this is all at right now?

I'm curious but haven't got my sleuthing cap on yet for this one... I dug quite deep into Sandy Hook, Aurora, Boston Bombing etc and they all made me ill lol and still got no solid answers, so my motivation to do it all again is somewhat weakened, lol. Plus this one has way more grisly videos of people getting killed etc just not willing to dive in but curious as to where the info so far has led the skeptics and conspriacy-minded...

I will keep trying to wad through this thread but maybe some of the info here is already outdated etc... any brief summaries on where the 'investigation' is leading at this point would be amazing

THANKS!
I'l warn you now that we are not going to get answers on this
The police have been hiding shit since it started and the official narrtive has changed a number of times including yesterday when they tried to slip in that their timeline is fucked and they lied to us about it

Simple breakdown of what we have been told (who knows what's true)
- sometime just before 9:59 something alerts security that a door alarm is (pretty sure this is from the hall door being screwed shut so people can't use the stairway)
- security guard goes to investigate the problem and hears drilling coming from shooters room
- security goes to question shooter
- security is shot at 9:59 in the leg
- Security DOES NOT call in being shot to police
- 10:05 shooter starts shooting at concert crowd
- security still DOES NOT call in being shot and knowing where shooter is to police
- somewhere around here the security see a maintenance guy on the floor and apparently rushes to get him to safety
- 10:15 the shooting comes to an end
- 10:17 the first 2 police arrive on scene and meet up with the shot security guard and learn of his situation for the first time
- Security guard refuses to leave the scene to try to help but is sent away by police (guard has still not been located, but is declared a "hero")
- police do not enter room apparently having to wait for swat
- 11:29 swat finally breaches the room 78minutes after security guard is shot

That's the officil narrative now after its been changed
There is more like reports of the guard calling in being shot, there is a bunch of shit that Is interesting in the leaked pictures
We know that paddack used the service elevator somehow from interview with mr. Wynn
Wynn also slipped up and said nobody would use their service elevator unattended, does that mean he wasn't escorted?
So much shit but that's off the top of my head

Oh ya, they said he checked in on the 28th but investigators found pictures of his vehicle there before and a receipt for room service from the 27th with the shooters name and it says it' for 2 people
The sheriff finally said yestetday that yes he did check in on the 25th
 
Jan 21, 2015
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^ THANKS!! that just saved me like 3 hours lol

Its always so fucked up when authorities are clearly lying or hiding shit or changing their story. What possible explanation could there be for this behaviour, if they are genuinely trying to solve the case? I can't stand it, almost every US media-hyped shooting in the past decade is riddled with inconsistencies and suspicious/odd behavior by authorities, trying to convince of a narrative that is obviously skewed. Why? What would stop them from just telling the truth and being honest with the findings?
 

mysticmac

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We know that paddack used the service elevator somehow from interview with mr. Wynn
Wynn also slipped up and said nobody would use their service elevator unattended, does that mean he wasn't escorted?
So much shit but that's off the top of my head

Oh ya, they said he checked in on the 28th but investigators found pictures of his vehicle there before and a receipt for room service from the 27th with the shooters name and it says it' for 2 people
The sheriff finally said yestetday that yes he did check in on the 25th
I wouldn't say we know Paddock used the service elevator based on what Wynn said. I see why people are saying that seems likely based on what he said, but he didn't say anything definitive.

And yeah, the sheriff said Paddock checked in on the 25th, but the sheriff said he doesn't believe Paddock occupied the room until the 28th.
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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^ THANKS!! that just saved me like 3 hours lol

Its always so fucked up when authorities are clearly lying or hiding shit or changing their story. What possible explanation could there be for this behaviour, if they are genuinely trying to solve the case? I can't stand it, almost every US media-hyped shooting in the past decade is riddled with inconsistencies and suspicious/odd behavior by authorities, trying to convince of a narrative that is obviously skewed. Why? What would stop them from just telling the truth and being honest with the findings?
The interesting thing to me, the Vegas police keep "misspeaking" but then days later we find out what they said and and then correct was actually true
A lot of people saying how good of a guy this sheriff is (and he really does seem to be that even if he's pissing me off) And many theorizing that the slip ups are intentional to get info out to public

Dude honestly looks like he just wants the truth and the Feds are standing behind every interview just staring a fucking hole in the back of his head
 

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Jan 22, 2016
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I wouldn't say we know Paddock used the service elevator based on what Wynn said. I see why people are saying that seems likely based on what he said, but he didn't say anything definitive.

And yeah, the sheriff said Paddock checked in on the 25th, but the sheriff said he doesn't believe Paddock occupied the room until the 28th.
Explain room service receipt on 27th please

We know he used the service elevator, Wynn would not have said that and then got all flustered had it not been true

Just like we know he parked his car is the garage that only employees are supposed to use
 

mysticmac

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Explain room service receipt on 27th please

We know he used the service elevator, Wynn would not have said that and then got all flustered had it not been true

Just like we know he parked his car is the garage that only employees are supposed to use
Link to info about the receipt?
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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Still following along, thanks for keeping this going.
I'm not stopping on this one until we get some fucking answers
I'm not one to back off when something is going on with friends and their family and I'd consider lue a friend

I might miss a day or two but I'll keep any info I find coming
 

Robbie Hart

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Feb 13, 2015
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Check this out: Key Witness in Las Vegas Shooting Kills Self and Daughter Following FBI Raid - Two Feed

A key witness in the Las Vegas shooting massacre has killed himself and his disabled daughter in a horrific murder-suicide shortly after the FBI raided his home.John Beilman was wanted for questioning by federal agents in connection with a communications device discovered in suspected shooter Stephen Paddock’s hotel room.Investigators searched Beilman’s Fairport home the day before he shot his severely disabled daughter and himself, according to sources close to the investigation. Agents executed a search warrant and raided Beilman’s Williamsburg Drive home the day before he took his daughter, Nicole, into the backyard and shot her and then himself in the back of the head with a 12-gauge shotgun.John Beilman’s 27-year-old daughter, Nicole, had Rett Syndrome, a rare neurological disorder. Nicole Beilman relied upon a wheelchair and was dependent on her parents for care.

According to this report, upon the FBI searching the Mandalay Bay Hotel room used by CIA gun runner Stephen Paddock, a cell phone charger was discovered that had no accompanying phone—with SVR technology experts noting that this type of charger is used to charge a CP502520 3.0V 600mAh Li-MnO2 Non-rechargeable Thin Cell Battery used in various communication devices by both US Special Forces and CIA forces. The company making this unique lithium battery, this report details, is Ultralife Corporation, based in Newark, New York, that specializes in military communications systems for the Pentagon—and whose lead engineer for this particular communication systems development was John Beilman. Listing himself as a “product design and manufacturing professional”, this report continues, John Beilman was employed by Ultralife Corporation between 2007-2012 where he worked on various top-secret communications systems for the US military—thereafter his leaving to become a top engineer at the General Motors research facility located in Rochester New York. Fearing that Ultralife Corporation had been secretly funneling their US military communications systems to the CIA, this report notes, this past Tuesday (3 October), the FBI raided the home of John Beilman under a secret US Federal Court warrant—and that caused Beilman, less than 12 hours later, during the early morning hours of Wednesday (4 October), to wheel out his severely disabled daughter Nicole into his home’s backyard where she was executed, with Beilman then killing himself too—and that was followed 48 hours later (6 October) by the Pentagon awarding Ultralife Corporation new contracts valued at over $49 million.


The CIA, this report further notes, has long been known to eliminate witnesses to their “murder sacrifice” “false flag” operations—and that includes the hundreds of witnesses mysteriously killed following the 9/11 “Tower Sacrifice”, and the, likewise, hundreds of witnesses mysteriously dying following the “King Sacrifice” murder of President John F. Kennedy—and that London’s Sunday Times reported the “the odds against these witnesses being dead by February 1967, were one hundred thousand trillion to one. The FBI claim they didn’t protect, or at the very least put under 24-hour surveillance, John Beilman following their raid on his home, due to American domestic intelligence experiencing a manpower shortage in their Las Vegas massacre investigation.

According to D&C, John Beilman committed the murder-suicide shortly after 5:20 a.m., Fairport police say.Fairport police said Beilman’s wife, Donna Beilman, was inside the home and did not hear the shots that took the life of her husband and daughter. Fairport Police Chief Samuel Farina said John Beilman left behind a “goodbye note” to his wife that indicated the circumstances of the shooting but not a motive.A neighbor of Beilman reported that he saw two police cars near the home the day before the killings. Farina said this week that police had not responded to any calls at the home.The FBI and federal prosecutors declined to comment.

A federal magistrate judge would have approved a search of the home. However, approval of a search does not ensure a crime was committed; instead, it is a search for evidence of a crime.Records of federal searches are often filed under seal, and there was no public record available Friday of the search of the Fairport home.
Shot himself with a shot gun in the back of the head.........and wife didn’t hear it? That’s a big ask.....,
 
Jan 21, 2015
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Where is all the security camera footage? At a hotel like that for sure there should be video isolated by now of everything, no?

Was it all confiscated? Is anyone talking about it?
 

Limpy

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Oct 20, 2015
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Where is all the security camera footage? At a hotel like that for sure there should be video isolated by now of everything, no?

Was it all confiscated? Is anyone talking about it?
I've thought about this a lot. Possibly the shooter had such an easy time getting everything in, even had some help from hotel staff that the hotel is pleading with the police not to release any video. Imagine having a loved one killed and video is released of the shooter casually bringing in bag after bag filled with guns and ammunition.