Discussion in 'It's still real to me Dammit - Pro Wrestling Forum' started by FrankieNYC, Dec 31, 2018.
Sure AEW is new and will do great things for some. But the best news is for the other guys. Vince and Trips will have to start writing bigger checks and start letting guys have more control over creative.
Second part won't happen with Vince
Trips shows his creative is great at NXT
but Vince will never do it
Now that you mention it, I have no recollection of ever posting that
We've all had those days brother.
A great breakdown of Jericho's podcast about why/how heft WWE & why he went with AEW is at Chris Jericho Provides In-Depth Timeline From Leaving WWE To Signing With AEW On Latest Podcast - Heel By Nature
Chris Jericho’s Journey From The WWE To All Elite Wrestling
Chris Jericho’s WWE Contract Expires – May 2017
Chris Jericho’s contract with WWE expires, he has injury angle with Kevin Owens to be written out of future stories.
Don Calls Calls And Pitches New Japan Summer 2017
Jericho receives call from Don Callis. He asks of he wants to setup a match with New Japan Pro Wrestling against Kenny Omega at the Tokyo Dome in January.
Jericho Meets With New Japan Officials Fall 2017
Jericho meets with New Japan officials in New York City. Afterwards he speaks with Vince McMahon and lets him know that he will be doing the match against Omega at Tokyo Dome. Vince McMahon is pleased for him and wishes him well.
Jericho Arrives in New Japan Pro Wrestling – Winter 2017
Chris Jericho does angle with Kenny Omega in Japan to setup Alpha vs. Omega match in January
Jericho vs. Omega happens at Wrestle Kingdom 12. Jericho pitches an appearance at New Year’s Dash to attack Tanahashi. Gedo says he should attack Naito. His appearance at New Year’s Dash was a ‘freebie’ according to Jericho.
Vince McMahon Calls, Pitches RAW 25*** – January 2018
Vince McMahon calls Jericho and asks why he attacked Naito, and thought he only had one match setup. He then asked Jericho to appear at RAW 25 as a special guest. Jericho agreed to appear at RAW 25 under one condition, it won’t be in the ring.
McMahon Pitches Greatest Royal Rumble – Spring 2018
Jericho and New Japan iron out a 3 match deal. Vince McMahon calls Jericho asking him to be at the Greatest Royal Rumble. Jericho says it’s one of the top offers he received as far as a payday goes, and agrees to a match with The Undertaker. When Jericho tells McMahon he has a 3 match deal with New Japan, McMahon doesn’t seem to pleased. Jericho receives a text back 3 hours later stating his match is now off, and he will simply be in the Rumble. McMahon says the Prince of Saudi Arabia wants Rusev vs. The Undertaker.
Chris Jericho Pitches WWE vs. NJPW Match At Summerslam To Vince McMahon – June 2018
Jericho wins Intercontinental Championship from Naito. Jericho then pitches an idea to Vince McMahon stating he would love to do a New Japan vs. WWE match at Summerslam. He wanted to have a Champion vs. Champion match pitting himself vs. Seth Rollins. Vince wasn’t sure if it would work, and Jericho explained that Harold Meij, who is running New Japan wants to expand, and they could work something out. Jericho said they could have had a DQ winner so nobody loses their title.*********Vince did not call him back after he pitched the idea.
WWE Passes On Jericho Cruise – Summer 2018
Jericho was working on it for 3 years. He wanted to hire a wrestling company to book all the matches. His original pitch was for NXT to have matches on the cruise, but the WWE passed on it. He spoke to Ring Of Honor, and they agreed to handle the wrestling portion of the cruise.
Jericho Becomes Friends With The Elite – Summer 2018
The Young Bucks were the first to agree to work his cruise, followed by Cody. He began a group text with them all, and eventually became friends.
Tony Khan Enters The Picture – Summer 2018
Jericho’s agent Barry Bloom gave him a call, and said Tony Khan is starting his own wrestling company, and wants to speak with him. Jericho says he hears stuff like this all the time, guys who want to start wrestling companies. Jericho spoke on how many people have tried to start companies in the past as a get rich quick scheme, or even a scam.******Jericho agrees to talk to him, and says he won’t work there, and use it just as negotiations, or even to provide advice.
Cody Wants Him For ALL IN – Summer 2018
Jericho hears about how well ALL IN is selling, and receives a call from Cody Rhodes. Cody asks Jericho is there is anyway he could work the ALL IN event. Jericho said he could not due to his Fozzy tour. He also mentioned that he he doesn’t work US dates outside of the WWE.
Vince Wants Jericho For Crown Jewel – Summer 2018
Vince McMahon calls and said he really needs Chris Jericho for the Crown Jewel event in Saudi Arabia. Jericho says he has a show in Osaka Japan, and can only make it work if he has a private jet take him from Riyadh to Osaka. He asked how much he is getting paid, and he said he would get back to him, and he didn’t call him back.
Jericho Appears At ALL In With The Help Of Tony Khan – Summer 2018
Jericho and Cody continue to talk, and they setup an angle to build it up for the cruise. It was Matt Jackson’s idea to have Jericho dress up as Pentagon Jr, and attack Kenny Omega. Jericho then reveals that he arrived to ALL IN on Tony Khan’s private jet.******Jericho reveals that he had a meeting with Tony Khan for four hours a few weeks earlier. He wanted to hear Khan’s thoughts on his company. He then realized that although Khan didn’t have any experience running a pro wrestling company, he had passion. Tony and his father never ran a wrestling company, but do run a Football Club in London, and a Football Team in Jacksonville. He says that they know entertainment.
Tony Khan Makes Offer To Chris Jericho – Fall 2018
The original offer Tony Khan offered Chris was a “real NHL level offer”. Chris said it blew his mind, which he never got before. He also knew with the money WWE has, they could match it. Jericho then notes he started to negotiate, and thinks about working outside of the WWE in the U.S. He said wants wanted to send a message to the WWE.
Chris Jericho’s Cruise – Fall 2018
Chris Jericho then hosted his week long cruise in October. He really was impressed with the way it turned out, and had a great time working with the Young Bucks. He says he saw the numbers it drew with FiteTV on iPPV, and was really impressed. He then states he is really enjoying what he’s doing.
Second Thoughts On Returning To WWE – Fall 2018
Jericho said he is having a great time working outside the WWE with New Japan, and with the success of the cruise, he thinks will he actually enjoy going back to the WWE. He begins to think how high on the WWE card would he get. He said it was fun being a part of the main event in New Japan. He said his name value now may be bigger than its ever been. He wanted to fulfil what he wanted to do, and began to really think on what plans he has for the future. He thinks about what he could do in the future in New Japan, or go back to the WWE. He thinks if he goes back to the WWE, it would be “slaughtered”. He said the payoff with Kevin Owens, the match was second on the card, which he wasn’t too pleased about.
Jericho said his character was reinvented, most noticeably the look. He said if he went back to the WWE, he wouldn’t want to be “the list guy”. He said if he goes back to the WWE, and doesn’t have the list, people may be angry.
Impact Wrestling Makes Offer – Fall 2018
Jericho then began to praise Impact Wrestling, and how Don and Scott have turned the company around. He met with them while in Toronto with Fozzy, and Jericho thought long and hard about doing shows for Impact Wrestling. He mentioned Impact Wrestling did make him a nice offer for working for them. They were going to spend some money on Chris Jericho. He said they had a few good matches planned, including Jericho vs. Sami Calihan, Jericho vs. Rich Swann, Jericho vs. Johnny Impact.
Tony Returns With Huge Offer – Winter 2018
Tony Khan came back in the picture and offered Chris Jericho the biggest offer he has ever had in his career. He said he had to stop and think if he wanted to make the jump. He said it was really hard, and began reminiscing about back when he left WCW. He asked himself how much further he could go with the “rules”. He said in WCW he wasn’t earmarked to be a top guy there. He said it wasn’t hard to step away from WCW to goto WWE. He asked himself if he could walk away from WWE and go to AEW. He said after some thoughts, he made his decision.
He said AEW is giving him respect, and in WWE it doesn’t matter what he does. In AEW it matters what he does, and he has to be his best. He said he needs to use his 30 years experience to help build the company.
Chris Tells Vince McMahon About His AEW Offer – Winter 2018
He said he spoke to Vince McMahon, and he feels both sides were happy, and they had closure. He said Vince McMahon is his friend, and he respects him a lot. He said the last thing he wanted to do was any sort of “screwjob” or “stabbing in the back”. He said Vince knew before anyone else he was going to All Elite Wrestling. He also stated that he is now finished with WWE, and has a 3 year deal with All Elite Wrestling, but can work for New Japan.
AEW Doesn’t Want To Be Beat The WWE
AEW does not want to beat the biggest wrestling company in the world, the WWE. They want to give the fans an alternative.
AEW Rally In Jacksonville – January 2019
The Bucks, Cody and Tony are the only people who knew he was going to be at the ‘Double Or Nothing’ rally in Jacksonville, FL. He gives a brief rundown of what happened at the All Elite Wrestling Rally. He said it was “really crazy” with all the pyro and smoke. He wanted to arrive as a highly touted free agent, similar to how a football or hockey star when they sign a major deal.******He said when the pyro was going off, he envisioned Vince in a meeting saying “Dammit would you shut that pyro off, I’m in a meeting”
Just got done listening it to myself. It is very telling where he is at. Sounds like he got his passion resparked with creative freedom, then WWE/Vince/Whoever ruined a lot of fun for him. Rather sad.
The part at the end where he went into hos legacy about always changing, loved it. To think this was a guy at a Royal Rumble a few years ago was getting “You Still Got It” chants.
His passion for this project alone sold me on the idea. Wasn’t really excited for AEW, thought it was rather scummy really. But funny what an hour of listening can do for ya.
Jericho is usually smart about these things & has great instinct
Some more inside info
AEW is paying a bottom line of $100k a year to indy types (non names)
Wow. Not bad at all. That's a really nice living. Do They need a no good, lousy, stinking, fat, out of shape Sleeze ball on the roster? Because I am ready!!
Brilliant that they make all these surprise indy shows
Not sure where else to post it, but not worth making another thread about;
Was listening to more Talk is Jericho, specifically the Cruise episode where The Elite announced they were dropping the Bullet Club moniker from their name.
Kenny, I think, mentions how he enjoys doing things for the fans, then how he somewhat disliked having to run somethings by a few people. He mentions Jay White by name. Does Jay White have a say on certain things? Surprised he name dropped him there.
Also found it funny that NJPW asks people to tweet out when they are joining a team. Marty isn’t my cup of tea, but his induction into Bullet Club story was fun.
Final nugget, funny story about them talking about the “leader” of the Bullet Club (Cody joked it was Jay White, funny enough). They go on about how they are grown men, not needing a leader. Jericho starts telling a story about how Punk called himself the locker room leader. One time he said “As locker room leader, I say you all need to pick up your trash.” Booker T goes on to throw his trash on the floor
Meltzer said that The Young bucks will be at Bellator Saturday night.
I wonder if that means anything?
I would think not. Then again how he knows they are going other than a tweet or something along those lines, then I would reckon maybe? Not sure why he would report that.
Or its just a nice “Hey, they will be there if you are there.”
I’m rambling, tired. Felt compelled to comment
He was talking about how they popped up at two events the past few days & said he knows they will be at Bellator Saturday
I saw where AEW has signed with Paramount Network this weekend. They will be getting a huge push from Viacom. The Bucks are planning on interrupting Chael on the mic, as he is talking about Tito. Chael turns around and walks right into a superkick party.
Source: Bozys imagination
This got me good
Funny thing is people are speculating that bc of what Dave said
A company that doesn't even have a full roster or more than 1 show booked is already getting merch play
Hop Topic will be doing a market test of six new AEW T-shirts at 140 of their stores starting next week and if they sell well then they will pick up the AEW line nationally.
I love that all the idiot newZ sites that are saying AEW means nothing are looking dumb & dumber