General CEOs didn't strip my healthcare

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kvr28

I am the Greengo
Nov 22, 2015
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I love the people who bitch about CEO pay the best and you ask them what the CEOs compensation is as percentage of revenue vs the rest of employee base and if it even fucking matters lol. You could pay all the CEOs $1 a year and it wouldn't be enough savings for the company to lower prices or pay their employees anymore. Exec compensation is a rounding error in most companies lol.

All these articles talking about his 10 million compensation...Thats against 370 billion revenue.. Meaning his compensation is literally . 0027% of revenue. Dude is underpaid if anything. Like I said his compensation is a rounding error... A company that size is reporting their financial statements in billions.
I have employees that make 5-8 Percent of our revenue depending on our yearly sales, some of them make more than my salary I pay myself.
 

Bushkill Blades

Knife Faggot
Oct 25, 2016
586
1,233
I don't know how the hell you do it, man.

I was about to burn it all down in October. Not kidding. Was gonna close shop and do something else. With every dollar worth less and less with each passing month, people are reeling in spending. Combine that with Kamala taking power and I was ready to be done. Made peace with it and everything.

Still not sure if there's a viable long-term path. If Trump can get energy costs down to ease the rising costs of everything, maybe shit works out.

But an optimist, I am not.
 

Bushkill Blades

Knife Faggot
Oct 25, 2016
586
1,233
How so?

My portfolio has done quite well for a modest set of investments.

And what on earth does that have to do with my lack of healthcare due to democrat law?
 

vad

Custom title
Jun 24, 2022
992
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I don't know how the hell you do it, man.

I was about to burn it all down in October. Not kidding. Was gonna close shop and do something else. With every dollar worth less and less with each passing month, people are reeling in spending. Combine that with Kamala taking power and I was ready to be done. Made peace with it and everything.

Still not sure if there's a viable long-term path. If Trump can get energy costs down to ease the rising costs of everything, maybe shit works out.

But an optimist, I am not.
What else can you make with your setup?

Glass breakers with a bottle opener on the other end? Brass knuckles. How about small survival shovels. Maybe camping tools like tongs and forks, spatula. I'd buy some camp cook tools from you for sure. Bike tools.
 

kvr28

I am the Greengo
Nov 22, 2015
8,867
13,000
I don't know how the hell you do it, man.
Getting closer to pulling the plug myself, taking it one year at a time, goal right now is to make it to next November so we can celebrate 20 years of operation. Will evaluate then, I'll just go back to LEO in some capacity if we do.
 

Bushkill Blades

Knife Faggot
Oct 25, 2016
586
1,233
What else can you make with your setup?

Glass breakers with a bottle opener on the other end? Brass knuckles. How about small survival shovels. Maybe camping tools like tongs and forks, spatula. I'd buy some camp cook tools from you for sure. Bike tools.
I'm set up for knives. Anything else would require investment into new tools and equipment. And with no guarantee of return, not an investment I'm willing to make.
 

Bushkill Blades

Knife Faggot
Oct 25, 2016
586
1,233
Getting closer to pulling the plug myself, taking it one year at a time, goal right now is to make it to next November so we can celebrate 20 years of operation. Will evaluate then, I'll just go back to LEO in some capacity if we do.
Similar to what I told Nic next year. Wanted to make sure we hit the 10 year mark. And we did.

Time will tell.
 

MountainMedic

Rock Kicker
Sep 28, 2017
3,440
7,395
Damn, it's been over a decade

Ima need some new kitchen knives before you go, lost em in the divorce (i bought them for her and it would have been petty to reclaim them), and a kukri from one of my jeeps leaf springs.

So, uhh, no. Your shop will remain open good sir!
 

Bushkill Blades

Knife Faggot
Oct 25, 2016
586
1,233
Damn, it's been over a decade

Ima need some new kitchen knives before you go, lost em in the divorce (i bought them for her and it would have been petty to reclaim them), and a kukri from one of my jeeps leaf springs.

So, uhh, no. Your shop will remain open good sir!
Yeah, I'm not so sure of that my friend.
 

Uncle Tom Doug

Official TMMAC Racist
Jun 24, 2022
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1,846
How so?

My portfolio has done quite well for a modest set of investments.

And what on earth does that have to do with my lack of healthcare due to democrat law?
My portfolio has made gains as well, but they'd be a lot greater if it wasn't for the repeated shitty behavior of CEO's. But those are the risks you take investing in the kosher casino.

Now onto your lack of healthcare.

There's pretty much a consensus that almost all of our elected officials, at the highest levels, are wholly owned by corporations and special interest groups, correct?

If that's the case, how is it possible that the CEOs of these corporations had no influence or direction in the design and implementation of the ACA and probably every other shitty healthcare related law or mandate that's fucked over millions of Americans, including yourself and other members of this forum? Especially when so many healthcare corporations and entities have seen record profits, and their CEOs have received record pay since its passing. Is that just dumb luck? Maybe just coincidence and happy accidents?

It might just be my autism and overall tardiness, but that's a hump I'm having a hard time getting over.
 

okiebug

Active Member
Aug 13, 2024
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I love the people who bitch about CEO pay the best and you ask them what the CEOs compensation is as percentage of revenue vs the rest of employee base and if it even fucking matters lol. You could pay all the CEOs $1 a year and it wouldn't be enough savings for the company to lower prices or pay their employees anymore. Exec compensation is a rounding error in most companies lol.

All these articles talking about his 10 million compensation...Thats against 370 billion revenue.. Meaning his compensation is literally . 0027% of revenue. Dude is underpaid if anything. Like I said his compensation is a rounding error... A company that size is reporting their financial statements in billions.
People drastically misunderstand the roll of a CEO and his/her ability.

Nobody believes they can do open heart surgery or represent a defendant in a murder trial, but everyone believes they could run Microsoft or Apple.

It takes a tremendous amount of experience and special leadership qualities to successfully run a large organization.
 

Bushkill Blades

Knife Faggot
Oct 25, 2016
586
1,233
My portfolio has made gains as well, but they'd be a lot greater if it wasn't for the repeated shitty behavior of CEO's. But those are the risks you take investing in the kosher casino.

Now onto your lack of healthcare.

There's pretty much a consensus that almost all of our elected officials, at the highest levels, are wholly owned by corporations and special interest groups, correct?

If that's the case, how is it possible that the CEOs of these corporations had no influence or direction in the design and implementation of the ACA and probably every other shitty healthcare related law or mandate that's fucked over millions of Americans, including yourself and other members of this forum? Especially when so many healthcare corporations and entities have seen record profits, and their CEOs have received record pay since its passing. Is that just dumb luck? Maybe just coincidence and happy accidents?

It might just be my autism and overall tardiness, but that's a hump I'm having a hard time getting over.
ACA was done by politicians, not CEOs.

The CEOs were in the same boat as everyone else. Nobody got to read the bill before it was signed into law. Remember? We have to pass it to find out what's in it.
 

Jamie999

Active Member
Aug 13, 2024
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ACA was done by politicians, not CEOs.

The CEOs were in the same boat as everyone else. Nobody got to read the bill before it was signed into law. Remember? We have to pass it to find out what's in it.
Sure but ACA benefitted insurance companies massively. They're probably the biggest benefactor to it.

Insurance is a cost plus business.. However it's still a competitive business so you can't just increase your costs to increase your profits or people won't buy your product.. You need an industry wide cost increase to increase revenues.

I have no doubt they probably lobbied Obama and democrats for ACA (I have never checked this just a guess).

That doesn't mean this particular CEO had anything to do with that lobbying effort though. I don't even know how much a CEO is involved with lobbying.

But again lobbying should be banned by politicians I don't blame companies from lobbying for their interests.. It shouldn't be legal in the first place.
 

CuddleBug

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Nov 18, 2023
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Getting angry at the insurance companies and not the politicians is like having your wife cheat on you and you are only angry at the dude that took advantage of it and not your wife who is the one that directly betrayed you.
 

Bushkill Blades

Knife Faggot
Oct 25, 2016
586
1,233
Sure but ACA benefitted insurance companies massively. They're probably the biggest benefactor to it.

Insurance is a cost plus business.. However it's still a competitive business so you can't just increase your costs to increase your profits or people won't buy your product.. You need an industry wide cost increase to increase revenues.

I have no doubt they probably lobbied Obama and democrats for ACA (I have never checked this just a guess).

That doesn't mean this particular CEO had anything to do with that lobbying effort though. I don't even know how much a CEO is involved with lobbying.

But again lobbying should be banned by politicians I don't blame companies from lobbying for their interests.. It shouldn't be legal in the first place.
AHIP lobbied against ACA.
 

supersonic

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Sep 4, 2015
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I'm not saying I can run a giant company, but I think there needs to be distinctions made regarding the value and abilities of CEOs. I have far more respect for the ones who built the companies, and much less than the ones who inherited it, make a move or two, good ones and often bad ones, and regardless leave with obscene packages
 

Uncle Tom Doug

Official TMMAC Racist
Jun 24, 2022
1,182
1,846
ACA was done by politicians, not CEOs.

The CEOs were in the same boat as everyone else. Nobody got to read the bill before it was signed into law. Remember? We have to pass it to find out what's in it.
If you honestly believe that the CEOs were in the same boat as everyone else and that nobody got to read it before it was signed into law, I'm not even sure what to say. The whole "we have to pass it to see what's in it" was nothing more than a bullshit excuse used to pass terrible legislation.