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An american died of coronavirus every 30 seconds over the last day. Nuts. And completely avoidable. About the same death as 9/11. Daily.
And we're back to seeing staffing shortages and shortages of PPE.

It'd really be nice for the government to have spent the last 6 months talking about the low risk things people can do instead of just what they can't. Would probably have more buy in. I'm reminded of the closing of parks and things like that. That stuff should be encouraged as a trade off.

It'd be good to see some language and direction change there. Masks plus broad testing could slow us into the vaccine stages and give us momentum into 2021.
 

Rambo John J

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I read a disclaimer on one of the vaccines today that said

"it is unknown at this time if this vaccine has an effect on fertility"


Hmnnn...I think that should be made known to the public...or better yet tested to determine it's effect before being rushed to the public


It is a form of gene editing and should not be taken lightly IMO
 

ThatOneDude

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I read a disclaimer on one of the vaccines today that said

"it is unknown at this time if this vaccine has an effect on fertility"


Hmnnn...I think that should be made known to the public...or better yet tested to determine it's effect before being rushed to the public


It is a form of gene editing and should not be taken lightly IMO
 

Jesus X

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they are using that scare tactic here in long beach even though we still have under 1000 covid deaths in a city of 467 thousand people most of them being old folks or people with health problems before covid.
this link is from august but even 4 months later that death toll is not that high.
 

Lukewarm Carl

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they are using that scare tactic here in long beach even though we still have under 1000 covid deaths in a city of 467 thousand people most of them being old folks or people with health problems before covid.
this link is from august but even 4 months later that death toll is not that high.
This isn't to contradict anything you just said. Just throwing out numbers.

LA County, where Long Beach is, reported 7700 cases yesterday and 42 deaths. They haven't reported yet today. There's a fuck ton of people in LA County...


Ooohhh I just found this. Neat shit.

 

Shinkicker

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they are using that scare tactic here in long beach even though we still have under 1000 covid deaths in a city of 467 thousand people most of them being old folks or people with health problems before covid.
this link is from august but even 4 months later that death toll is not that high.


City seal courtesy of Long Beach

An important update on COVID-19 surge in Long Beach
By: courtesy

On: December 1, 2020

In: Community, Health and Wellness, Long Beach
Tagged: COVID-19, Long Beach CA

The City of Long Beach continues to see an alarming rise in COVID-19 cases. This unfortunate trend, which also is happening across the county, region and state, could threaten hospital capacity and ultimately cost lives.
Long Beach area hospitalizations (Long Beach Memorial Hospital, St. Mary Medical Center, College Medical Center, Lakewood Regional Medical Center and Los Alamitos Medical Center) have grown by 366% since November 1, to 135. While the City monitors regional hospitalizations, we also track Long Beach residents who are hospitalized from COVID-19. That number has grown by 94% since Nov. 1.

Currently, there 64 Long Beach residents in the hospital. While the City has a plan for surge capacity if need be, hospital capacity is a crucial indicator. As of now, 59% of beds, not including pediatric beds, are in use in Long Beach hospitals. Intensive Care Units are at 64% of total capacity, and 43% of available ventilators are in use.
What’s more, Long Beach has seen an alarmingly steep rise in cases. Since Nov. 1, cases have climbed from 27 to 190 in daily reporting. and our case rate has risen from just 6.9 per 100,000 people, on Nov. 1, to 24.7 per 100,000 people as of Nov. 28 (this includes a 7 day lag, the state methodology).

And the increase is showing no sign of slowing down. Long Beach has recorded an additional 486 cases since Nov. 24, with approximately 700 more from the weekend that will be included in our total case count tomorrow. We expect the case rate number to increase significantly tomorrow once those cases are counted and the 5-day real-time-average is calculated.

Demand for testing continues to increase. The City administered 1,405 tests on Saturday and 1,352 on Sunday. It is also important to note that the City will not begin to see the implications of Thanksgiving weekend for about 10 days, and we expect to see additional hospital impacts 2-3 weeks from now.

This means that today’s data and testing demands are not only alarming in their raw numbers, but as implications of what history has shown us could come in the wake of these new cases.
The City will provide data after completing the analysis of the approximately 700 new positive cases. That data will help determine next steps for Long Beach, including changes to the health order based on this latest data.
This article was released by the City of Long Beach.
 

Jesus X

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City seal courtesy of Long Beach

An important update on COVID-19 surge in Long Beach
By: courtesy

On: December 1, 2020

In: Community, Health and Wellness, Long Beach
Tagged: COVID-19, Long Beach CA

The City of Long Beach continues to see an alarming rise in COVID-19 cases. This unfortunate trend, which also is happening across the county, region and state, could threaten hospital capacity and ultimately cost lives.
Long Beach area hospitalizations (Long Beach Memorial Hospital, St. Mary Medical Center, College Medical Center, Lakewood Regional Medical Center and Los Alamitos Medical Center) have grown by 366% since November 1, to 135. While the City monitors regional hospitalizations, we also track Long Beach residents who are hospitalized from COVID-19. That number has grown by 94% since Nov. 1.

Currently, there 64 Long Beach residents in the hospital. While the City has a plan for surge capacity if need be, hospital capacity is a crucial indicator. As of now, 59% of beds, not including pediatric beds, are in use in Long Beach hospitals. Intensive Care Units are at 64% of total capacity, and 43% of available ventilators are in use.
What’s more, Long Beach has seen an alarmingly steep rise in cases. Since Nov. 1, cases have climbed from 27 to 190 in daily reporting. and our case rate has risen from just 6.9 per 100,000 people, on Nov. 1, to 24.7 per 100,000 people as of Nov. 28 (this includes a 7 day lag, the state methodology).

And the increase is showing no sign of slowing down. Long Beach has recorded an additional 486 cases since Nov. 24, with approximately 700 more from the weekend that will be included in our total case count tomorrow. We expect the case rate number to increase significantly tomorrow once those cases are counted and the 5-day real-time-average is calculated.

Demand for testing continues to increase. The City administered 1,405 tests on Saturday and 1,352 on Sunday. It is also important to note that the City will not begin to see the implications of Thanksgiving weekend for about 10 days, and we expect to see additional hospital impacts 2-3 weeks from now.

This means that today’s data and testing demands are not only alarming in their raw numbers, but as implications of what history has shown us could come in the wake of these new cases.
The City will provide data after completing the analysis of the approximately 700 new positive cases. That data will help determine next steps for Long Beach, including changes to the health order based on this latest data.
This article was released by the City of Long Beach.
meh. that makes it sound worse that it actually is which for a city of close to half a million is not that bad. we have a lot of hospitals in L.A county and most long beachians actually go to hospitals in the south bay area or orange county which has some empty AF hospitals,south bay area also has some huge hospitals.
 

Shinkicker

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they are using that scare tactic here in long beach even though we still have under 1000 covid deaths in a city of 467 thousand people most of them being old folks or people with health problems before covid.
this link is from august but even 4 months later that death toll is not that high.
I'm not singling you out. Many people feel the same way you do.

However, being in the medical field and seeing how covid patients are overwhelming us, I can't help but wonder who will be screaming the loudest when healthy people start to die due to lack of medical care because all resources are tied up with covid.

Imagine taking your child to the ER with stomach pain and sitting in the lobby for hours because there are no available beds. Meanwhile his appendix ruptures, he gets septic and later dies. Are you going to sue the hospital? Will you be angry at the doctors? Or at people (not all) who were reckless and caught the covid and overwhelmed that hospital?

Who will be responsible for that?
 
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Shinkicker

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meh. that makes it sound worse that it actually is which for a city of close to half a million is not that bad. we have a lot of hospitals in L.A county and most long beachians actually go to hospitals in the south bay area or orange county which has some empty AF hospitals,south bay area also has some huge hospitals.
Most personnel at hospitals are based on patient load. Your hospitals have seen a 366% percent increase in patients in 30 days. You put that patient load on doctors and nurses, do you think these patients are getting the best quality of care?

As far as the other hospitals being empty, usually in an emergency people don't have time to shop around for the least crowded ER.
 

Shinkicker

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i have a "FB Friend" from a prior business engagement who pretty consistently has posted "don't live in fear!" "Get out and live your LIFE!" stuff about da Rona...he's also in the kind of business that is getting killed by da Rona.

Then I see this post...

"My father Who is a veteran has pancreatic cancer in Las Cruces New, Mexico, and cannot even be admitted to the hospital either in Las Cruces or El Paso, Texas. It seems like all the hospital beds, surgery rooms are on a waitlist due to the coronavirus.
I don't understand how an American citizen and a Veteran must be put on a waitlist for a surgery room, or any type of medical care in Lieu of immigrants crossing the border with coronavirus?
I am reaching out for help to get him admitted ASAP to his doctor in El Paso Texas for pancreatic cancer as his bile ducks are clogged and is possibly in stage two or three for cancer.
Currently here are the facts that I know about Cancer/Surgery:
-First, he is a Veteran.
-Possible stage 2 to stage 3 already.
-Las Cruces, New Mexico has no doctor that can perform this surgery on his bile ducts.
-His bile duct is clogged and being drained (currently)
-El Paso, Texas has no ICU or surgery rooms due to Corona Virus patients.
-Texas hospitals are saving all the rooms for COVID-19 patients from El Paso, Texas, and Juarez, Mexico.
-He has his first Chemo on 12/07/2020 to try to shrink cancer and give him more time till a bed opens up.
-He is on the waitlist for Mayo Clinic in Arizona,
-He is on the waitlist at Banner MD Anderson Cancer Center in Arizona.
-COVID is making this really difficult since he lives in Las Cruces, New Mexico, and has to travel to El Paso, Texas if they ever have a room open up.
-There is no doctor on staff who can perform this surgery in New Mexico at all per my conversation with him and my step-mom.
We are just looking for all the help & the best options for him right now. Thank you!"

breaks my heart that he's suffering for his father, but it doesn't sound like much can be done at this point...

@Splinty - thoughts and prayers for you and your kind.
Jesus X @Jesus X , did you read this^

Hospitals are cancelling most elective surgeries.
 

MMAHAWK

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Can’t help but wonder why we get hard numbers for the cases and deaths but a percentage for icu beds. Gotta believe it’s because if they said less than 1% of the state of California has the virus and of those 1% you have a 99% chance of survival people would think it’s insane.
 

Rambo John J

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Can’t help but wonder why we get hard numbers for the cases and deaths but a percentage for icu beds. Gotta believe it’s because if they said less than 1% of the state of California has the virus and of those 1% you have a 99% chance of survival people would think it’s insane.
Here in Oregon they report every positive very quickly and loudly.
Thousands per day are reported and show up on the state website.
Oddly, on the same website only 40 negative tests had shown up in the last 4 days.

Nothing gets in the way of doom and gloom reporting and headlines.