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Well, I am being serious that the data isn't quite strong enough yet. Until we get more data, we can't be certain Pfizer/Moderna is as effective as the initial results show. Let's say it's 88% effective rather than 95% - that is a big difference at the population level particularly with so many anti-vaxxers around.
Also, Australia is really up shit creek now. Our vaccine failed because it was giving people AIDS (well, sort of).
Australia terminates University of Queensland vaccine deal with CSL after false positives for HIV
Scott Morrison says University of Queensland coronavirus vaccine ‘will not be able to proceed’
www.theguardian.com
I wouldn't let a bogan Queensland cunt make me a sandwich at Subway, let alone develop a vaccine. Trust them to give it AIDS.
If I want to go bug chasing, I will do it the old fashioned way by joining the Navy, not taking a coronavirus vaccine.
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Fear not, the British are teaming up witb the trusty Ruskies...Well, I am being serious that the data isn't quite strong enough yet. Until we get more data, we can't be certain Pfizer/Moderna is as effective as the initial results show. Let's say it's 88% effective rather than 95% - that is a big difference at the population level particularly with so many anti-vaxxers around.
Also, Australia is really up shit creek now. Our vaccine failed because it was giving people AIDS (well, sort of).
Australia terminates University of Queensland vaccine deal with CSL after false positives for HIV
Scott Morrison says University of Queensland coronavirus vaccine ‘will not be able to proceed’
I wouldn't let a bogan Queensland cunt make me a sandwich at Subway, let alone develop a vaccine. Trust them to give it AIDS.
If I want to go bug chasing, I will do it the old fashioned way by joining the Navy, not taking a coronavirus vaccine.
Covid: Trials to test combination of Oxford and Sputnik vaccines
The aim is to see whether mixing two vaccines could improve protection against Covid-19.
www.bbc.co.uk
Fear not, the British are teaming up witb the trusty Ruskies...
Covid: Trials to test combination of Oxford and Sputnik vaccines
The aim is to see whether mixing two vaccines could improve protection against Covid-19.www.bbc.co.uk
Saving the world again. Sigh.
For such a small country we are literally pound for pound the greatest nation that has ever existed in the history of mankind.
Everything comes back to us.
*nods appreciatively to the Romans*
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The two Murican vaccines (ok one is half Kraut) are more effective.
As they should be.Fear not, the British are teaming up witb the trusty Ruskies...
Covid: Trials to test combination of Oxford and Sputnik vaccines
The aim is to see whether mixing two vaccines could improve protection against Covid-19.www.bbc.co.uk
If the Russian vaccine actually works and we can get around the geopolitics by being able to sell it as a British collaboration, then that will be good.
Pfizer and Moderna just aren't going to be viable options for poor countries. The world needs one of these more efficient alternatives to actually work.
If you have the tech and and space to store 100 million doses of vaccine at -70 degrees (fuck knows what that is in your backwards scale of coldness but it's very, very, cold) it's good but for the majority of the world the Brit stick is the best as it can be stored in a normal fridge.
Most vaccines are considered effective at anything above 50%
Oh and we have pledged to not make a penny profit off it too.
You're welcome world.
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The Moderna one can be stored at -20° (science uses Centigrade, even here). Apparently dry ice keeps them at the right temperature for days to weeks. I don't think -20° is a big ask. Most kitchen freezers get that cold.
I know, though, some people are more comfortable with the Oxford vaccine because it is the traditional vaccine type.
But if I have a choice (and I likely will) when the time comes, I'll go with the Moderna one or the Pfizer one. The former will probably be more widely distributed here.
Devin Nunes says he's tested positive for COVID-19 antibodies
Nunes has faced criticism for downplaying the seriousness of the virus.
www.axios.com
Biogen Conference in Boston Now Tied to More than 300,000 Coronavirus Cases
The Biogen conference in Boston, according to a new study, is responsible for roughly 1.9% of all U.S. cases since the pandemic began.
By Kaitlin McKinley Becker • Published December 11, 2020 • Updated on December 11, 2020 at 12:00 pm
A biotech conference held at a Boston hotel in late February that had already been blamed for the initial spread of the coronavirus in eastern Massachusetts has now been tied to hundreds of thousands of cases of the virus globally.
The two-day Biogen conference at the Boston Marriott Long Wharf hotel is responsible for infecting as many as 330,000 people with COVID-19 worldwide, according to a new study published Thursday in the journal Science.
The stunning figure is a far cry from previous reports about the superspreading event held on Feb. 26 and Feb. 27 that was already believed to have contributed substantially to the spread of the virus outside of Massachusetts. A prior report from dozens of scientists at the Broad Institute and Mass General Hospital posited the event led to as many as 20,000 coronavirus cases.
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Biogen Conference Linked to 20K Cases
A conference held by Biogen in February may have led to 20,000 coronavirus cases, according to a new study.
Nearly 100 people became ill following the Cambridge-based company's leadership conference, prompting the Marriott hotel to shut down in mid-March, but it was too late. Conference attendees had already hopped on planes to head home to destinations around the world, before many public health precautions were put in place. The spread took off like wildfire.
Researchers said they used genetic code to track down how those cases spread once conference attendees arrived at their destinations. Scientists used viral genome sequencing and phylogenetic analysis from 28 samples collected with known conference exposure between March 5 and March 11 to show that there was extensive spread within Massachusetts and elsewhere.
The spread increased in frequency and was long-lasting, the study's findings show. By Nov. 1, viruses connected to the conference could be found in 29 U.S. states and several countries, including Australia, Slovakia and Sweden.
While Massachusetts accounted for most of the early spread related to the gathering, Florida accounted for the greatest proportion of cases overall. Other states with the largest numbers of cases linked to conference participants returning from the meeting include North Carolina and Indiana.
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Former Biogen Employee Who Flew With Symptoms to Be Charged
Officials say that the woman who flew to China despite having COVID-19 symptoms faces charges.
The conference, according to the study, is responsible for roughly 1.9% of all U.S. cases since the pandemic began.
"While these estimates are provisional, they convey the likely scope of regional, national, and international spread resulting from a single superspreading event early in the pandemic," the authors said in the study.
The estimates do not account for subsequent transmission of the virus -- there have been 4 million new COVID-19 infections in the US in November.
Analyzing the first wave of the COVID-19 outbreak in the Boston area provides powerful evidence of the importance of superspreading events in shaping the course of this pandemic, according to the study's authors.
Researchers said the takeaway here is the close relationships between seemingly disconnected groups and populations; it's a lesson in "superspreader" events. Viruses from international business travel related to the Biogen conference in Boston seeded major outbreaks among people experiencing homelessness, spread throughout the Greater Boston area including to other higher risk communities, and were exported to other domestic and international sites, the study's findings revealed.
The Biogen conference in Boston, according to a new study, is responsible for roughly 1.9% of all U.S. cases since the pandemic began.
By Kaitlin McKinley Becker • Published December 11, 2020 • Updated on December 11, 2020 at 12:00 pm
A biotech conference held at a Boston hotel in late February that had already been blamed for the initial spread of the coronavirus in eastern Massachusetts has now been tied to hundreds of thousands of cases of the virus globally.
The two-day Biogen conference at the Boston Marriott Long Wharf hotel is responsible for infecting as many as 330,000 people with COVID-19 worldwide, according to a new study published Thursday in the journal Science.
"Because SARS-CoV-2 viruses circulating at the conference happened to be marked by distinct genomic signatures, we were able to track its downstream effects far beyond the superspreading event itself, tracing the descendants of the virus as they made a large contribution to the local outbreak in the Boston area and as they spread throughout the US and the world, likely causing hundreds of thousands of cases," the study read.
The stunning figure is a far cry from previous reports about the superspreading event held on Feb. 26 and Feb. 27 that was already believed to have contributed substantially to the spread of the virus outside of Massachusetts. A prior report from dozens of scientists at the Broad Institute and Mass General Hospital posited the event led to as many as 20,000 coronavirus cases.
2:06
Biogen Conference Linked to 20K Cases
A conference held by Biogen in February may have led to 20,000 coronavirus cases, according to a new study.
Nearly 100 people became ill following the Cambridge-based company's leadership conference, prompting the Marriott hotel to shut down in mid-March, but it was too late. Conference attendees had already hopped on planes to head home to destinations around the world, before many public health precautions were put in place. The spread took off like wildfire.
Researchers said they used genetic code to track down how those cases spread once conference attendees arrived at their destinations. Scientists used viral genome sequencing and phylogenetic analysis from 28 samples collected with known conference exposure between March 5 and March 11 to show that there was extensive spread within Massachusetts and elsewhere.
The spread increased in frequency and was long-lasting, the study's findings show. By Nov. 1, viruses connected to the conference could be found in 29 U.S. states and several countries, including Australia, Slovakia and Sweden.
While Massachusetts accounted for most of the early spread related to the gathering, Florida accounted for the greatest proportion of cases overall. Other states with the largest numbers of cases linked to conference participants returning from the meeting include North Carolina and Indiana.
1:43
Former Biogen Employee Who Flew With Symptoms to Be Charged
Officials say that the woman who flew to China despite having COVID-19 symptoms faces charges.
The conference, according to the study, is responsible for roughly 1.9% of all U.S. cases since the pandemic began.
"While these estimates are provisional, they convey the likely scope of regional, national, and international spread resulting from a single superspreading event early in the pandemic," the authors said in the study.
The estimates do not account for subsequent transmission of the virus -- there have been 4 million new COVID-19 infections in the US in November.
Analyzing the first wave of the COVID-19 outbreak in the Boston area provides powerful evidence of the importance of superspreading events in shaping the course of this pandemic, according to the study's authors.
Researchers said the takeaway here is the close relationships between seemingly disconnected groups and populations; it's a lesson in "superspreader" events. Viruses from international business travel related to the Biogen conference in Boston seeded major outbreaks among people experiencing homelessness, spread throughout the Greater Boston area including to other higher risk communities, and were exported to other domestic and international sites, the study's findings revealed.
So, do Americans have to pay for the vaccine? If yes, how much is it going to cost?
Flu vaccines are "free" so I have a feeling that this will also be free at first. I'm not sure if it will stay that way though. Kind of like how in the beginning of the year testing was being fully covered by insurance but that's no longer the case.
What's a test cost down there?
It's all over the board. Some places, like CVS, are offering them for free but those are self administered so that means your results will vary since the PCR tests require a good sample to be accurate.
Q&A: How much does it cost to get a COVID-19 test? It depends. - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
Josh Sharfstein, professor of practice and vice dean for public health practice and community engagement at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, on the nuances of insurance coverage and expenses that accompany COVID-19 testing.
coronavirus.jhu.edu
Now the million dollars questions. When can I cross the border for a vaccine and what will it cost me? I know you're part of the brain trust and will have these answers.It's all over the board. Some places, like CVS, are offering them for free but those are self administered so that means your results will vary since the PCR tests require a good sample to be accurate.
Q&A: How much does it cost to get a COVID-19 test? It depends. - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
Josh Sharfstein, professor of practice and vice dean for public health practice and community engagement at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, on the nuances of insurance coverage and expenses that accompany COVID-19 testing.