i think I know what you meant to say, but please say it.
Teens and Children
They really aren't at risk from Covid
Natural Immunity would serve them much better and last for decades or longer
Thank you babe, for allowing me to amend my statement
Those diseases disproportionately have negative impacts on kids.
A mandate for the flu shot would make more sense for elementary schools than one for covid.
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Scientists not backing Covid jabs for 12 to 15-year-olds
But 200,000 extra children with underlying conditions will now be eligible for two doses.
www.bbc.com
Derp your face off bud
Fine by me
Real science evolves
Real science stands up to scrutiny and discussion
You are only interested in Politicized MSM "science" on this topic
There is a lot more information to digest than what you choose to expose yourself to
When you're right, you're right.
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At this point, I believe we are at over half the world population receiving at least one dose, with a small percentage of side effects. As far as “long term side effects” what would you imagine we see?
What is a good length, in your opinion, for a long term safety study?
MMR also have remarkable survival rates, yet they still require a vaccination for that.
When you say that the vaccine is “far less effective” what do you mean? The MMR vaccine has an efficacy of ~95%. The Pfizer vaccine is also ~95% effective.
Regardless if it is a “Trump Vaccine”, we had basically an unlimited amount of money and man power going into the development of it. We also weren’t starting this completely blind. We have been researching these types of vaccines for a few decades, and have been researching SARS since the first outbreak in the early 2000’s. This is why they were able to get something so effective in a short period of time.
I understand wanting to be able to choose whether or not you get the vaccine, because it really SHOULD be a personal choice. However, we already require vaccines to go to public schools. Covid does have a great survival rate, but how many people have died at this point worldwide? It’s an insane amount. And who are usually the people that infect vulnerable people? It’s usually the kids. I taught kids jiu jitsu for 6 and a half years. I got sick every single year multiple times, because the little bastards are the perfect spreaders. The severity of my sickness always varied, but it was guaranteed I would be down for at least 1 solid week every year during the beginning of the school year.
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You found a typo
Instead of engaging in actual discussion about the science you choose to...
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You said that they have a death rate of 99.9%. That’s absolutely wrong. I believe you meant to say they have a survival rate 99.9%
The trump part was a joke about how political it was from the start
I would like the same safety study length that other vaccines are held to...especially for those with almost no risk(which is almost everybody)
95% was an early claim and you weren't supposed to be able to contract or spread the virus, that goalpost has moved 20 times since that early claim and the early claim has proven to be BS...almost every claim about the vaccine has fallen apart in time, yet here we are
Personal Choice is everything, if we don't stick up for that then what are we left with?
The little bastards are building their immune systems, that is the reason Humans have existed for so damn long(Millions of years)...we have amazing immune systems that learn from exposure(previous sars exposed humasn have proven to have antibodies that fight this version of Sars 2 decades later)
I'm not trying to debate you or change your mind...I just was pointing out some differences between this "vaccine"(isn't a vaccine it is a therapy) and other vaccines
I think it is completely unnecessary to mass vaccinate the population, especially the youth...I come to that by reading the science and Data that is available currently, that is my opinion and I am not trying to force it on anybody
As I say the following please bear in mind that I am vaccinated, and with something far more experimental than anything you folks got, so I'm not anti-vax by any stretch of the imagination. That being said, according to Pfizer they don't even know the longterm effects of the vaccine. That's why it went from "2 doses and we're all done with covid." to "Put your masks back on, looks like it's at least 3." If the manufacturer doesn't know whether or not their vaccine is effective beyond 6 months, it's kind of hard to rationalize that they could possibly know with certainty that we aren't all going to grow massive 4 inch penises either.
Pfizer is 95% effective against death. It's a sliding scale beyond that. The vaccine also apparently needs to be reapplied every 6 months or it goes out the window entirely. Again, this is according to Pfizer, not some YouTube nonsense.
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I realize this
The post you quoted expands upon the point I was making
I amended my statement by expanding upon it not using numbers but instead using only words
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1. An insane number, not amount.
2. The survival rate argument by anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers, and anti-any sort of restrictive measures crowd has been a diversion from the beginning. Death was never the primary concern. It has always been about preventing an overburdened hospital system by reducing the spread of infection and one's chances of becoming infected. Vaccines, mask mandates, and other covid restrictions have been shown to be successful at doing those two things, thereby reducing or limiting the number (not amount
) of people requiring hospitalization.
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Can't verbalize his own thoughts, wants to be taken seriously.
Ohhh shit, we’re getting into multi-quotes and bold statements! Shits getting real.
I agree that this has been politicized which I find particularly disturbing. However, that doesn’t take away from what is actually happening.
How long was the polio vaccine studied for before being given to the public?
The goal posts haven’t been moved with the ~95% efficacy. What percentage of people who are vaccinated are getting so sick that they have to go to the hospital? How many are dying? Being vaccinated against MMR doesn’t mean you won’t ever contract one of those diseases. The same goes with Covid.
The little bastards are indeed improving their immune systems.But they are the vectors that pass it onto their parents and grandparents.
Im also not trying to debate you or change your opinion, but I believe that some of your questions needed to be questioned.
What is an amount? I always thought it was a quantity. A quantity of people, perhaps?1. An insane number, not amount.
2. The survival rate argument by anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers, and anti-any sort of restrictive measures crowd has been a diversion from the beginning. Death was never the primary concern. It has always been about preventing an overburdened hospital system by reducing the spread of infection and one's chances of becoming infected. Vaccines, mask mandates, and other covid restrictions have been shown to be successful at doing those two things, thereby reducing or limiting the number (not amount
It hasn't "been politicized", it IS political, period.
From 2017 when Fauci forecast it.
Crime against humanity is a better description.
Question away my friend
I would suggest that you be wary of your sources of information, there is a narrative pushed in this country that is completely different from the results and science from other countries regarding hospitalization, death, cases etc...regarding vaxxed vs unvaxxed group
I am not willing to alter with the immune systems of the young to protect the old and weak, that doesn't sound wise to me
To me the little bastards are everything...their bodies are amazing and precious...anything introduced to their system should be extremely well vetted...they are literally the future of mankind
I only posted answers, you posted the question as to what was different about requiring this vaccine compared to other previously required vaccines...I am fine discussing my points, healthy debate and discussion is healthy
Come on, babe. Other scientists besides Fauci have been worried about pandemics for a long time.
I know anecdotal evidence isn’t great, but here we go:
When I was 18-19, I used to live up the street from someone who worked for CDC. This was in 2007-2008. I remember asking him what was the thing he was most worried about happening. His answer was, “highly infectious viruses that become airborne and cause a worldwide pandemic”. this actually fucked me up for a couple weeks after hearing him say that.
People that actually work on this stuff for a living have been talking about this stuff for a long time. Not just since 2017.
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Amount and number have the same meaning. The word that follows them decides which one you should use.
Countable words (words that have a plural form) use number: a number of people, a considerable number of studies, an insane number of children, etc.
Uncountable words (words with no plural form) use amount: an insane amount of research, a sparse amount of intelligence, a ridiculous amount of shitposting, etc.
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