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lueVelvet

WHERT DA FERCK?
Aug 29, 2015
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There is some really incompetent, and worse, research being bandied around by some prominent academics. I think academia is going to need to drink some bleach and apply some tremendous sunlight once this is all over to get rid of some of the disease in the system. It's not going to happen, but there should be consequences for some of the stuff that has been put out there.

Cunts need to start realizing that if your research is coming up with findings that seems to contradict everything we are seeing around us, your first thought shouldn't be 'what a delightful counter-intuitive finding, I must be a genius and the rest of the world must be wrong', it should be 'hmm, perhaps my research design is completely fucked, I better check it again'. Too many are trying to play the role of brilliant contrarians and are instead playing the role of dangerous imbeciles.
That’s sort of not how “research” works. Many of these papers are not meant to have the laymen read and interpret. You research a tiny element of something so that others can research another element of something else to add to the previous papers research. Or they’ll take what one group of researches started and refine it down. One group of 5 researchers aren’t going to discover every little bit of detail of everything they’re studying. It just doesn’t work that way.

What we need is non researchers (specifically the media) to not take a small finding of a study and twist it around to make folks believe that the results are directly related to the causes in the study. It’s just not that simple unfortunately.
 

Sheepdog

Protecting America from excessive stool loitering
Dec 1, 2015
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That’s sort of not how “research” works. Many of these papers are not meant to have the laymen read and interpret. You research a tiny element of something so that others can research another element of something else to add to the previous papers research. Or they’ll take what one group of researches started and refine it down. One group of 5 researchers aren’t going to discover every little bit of detail of everything they’re studying. It just doesn’t work that way.

What we need is non researchers (specifically the media) to not take a small finding of a study and twist it around to make folks believe that the results are directly related to the causes in the study. It’s just not that simple unfortunately.
Yeah, I'm not talking about laymen misinterpreting limited academic research, I'm talking about academics publishing deeply flawed research and then smearing that shit all over the world in order to make a name for themselves, with dangerous consequences. Like this:

Why experts are questioning two hyped antibody studies in coronavirus hotspots

I thought that was pretty obvious from my post, perhaps I should have dumbed it down a little so a layman could understand it.
 

Yossarian

TMMAC Addict
Oct 25, 2015
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What we need is non researchers (specifically the media) to not take a small finding of a study and twist it around to make folks believe that the results are directly related to the causes in the study. It’s just not that simple unfortunately.
What we need is for people to use common sense and use critical thinking when taking in information. Do we really want to be spoon fed by the media? Is this where we are now? Today's news agencies are entertainment, nothing more. We all know this right?
 

Freeloading Rusty

Here comes Rover, sniffin’ at your ass
Jan 11, 2016
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How about that, paid protesters.

GOP donors pay to bus protesters to cities to demand governors ease coronavirus restrictions: report
A number of Trump-allied groups, including Tea Party Patriots and FreedomWorks, law firms with ties to Trump and state-based conservative groups are paying to organize the protests and even bring in individuals from outside of the cities where demonstrations take place, according to The New York Times.

"As was the case with the Tea Party movement, established national groups that generally align with the Republican Party have sought to fuel the protests, harnessing their energy in a manner that can increase their profiles and build their membership base and donor rolls," the outlet reported.

FreedomWorks, for example, is paying most of its 40 employees to organize the protests, and it is considering investments in digital ads to boost turnout, according to the report.

Organizers of recent demonstrations in Oklahoma admitted that the group helped arrange the event, saying they hoped to "help" Trump "politically."
 

sparkuri

Pulse on the finger of The Cimmunity
First 100
Jan 16, 2015
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You milk shitters
What's a "milk-shitter"?

need to get it through your heads that coronavirus deaths are being massively undercounted, not overcounted. This is not even up for debate[/QUOTE

It isn't?
So, "COVID-19" as the masses call it, and its deaths, are not up for debate?
Are you for real?


- the evidence is right in front of you with the excess deaths.
Interpretation is everything.



It's irrelevant if some deaths are falsely attributed to covid because they are nothing in comparison to covid deaths that aren't attributed to covid.





A 5-year-old child should be able to figure out why there are less flu deaths right now too.

If you said teenager, you might've pulled off one correct statement in this entire post.
 

sparkuri

Pulse on the finger of The Cimmunity
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Jan 16, 2015
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I think academia is going to need to drink some bleach and apply some tremendous sunlight once this is all over to get rid of some of the disease in the system.
They've been doing this for decades in order to swallow the same pill you have.
 

Sheepdog

Protecting America from excessive stool loitering
Dec 1, 2015
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What's a "milk-shitter"?
Listen milk shitter, the main way we will ultimately judge how many deaths resulted from this pandemic in a particular area is by estimating the number based on the amount of excess deaths (or lack thereof), while cross-referencing it with additional data sources. The pandemic is killing people for indirect reasons - people afraid to go to hospital, unable to receive proper care, (more suicides perhaps?) etc. - but also saving people for indirect reasons - less road accidents and flu transmissions etc. But ultimately we can put that all into a neat little package called 'excess deaths' and see where the chips fall, and that will give us the best idea of the overall impact on mortality.

If some retarded conspiracy to deliberately over-count deaths is happening, then this will be at serious odds with the number of excess deaths recorded, and you won't have to worry your pretty little head about it because the dastardly conspirators' evil plan will have been foiled.
 

nuraknu

savage
Jul 20, 2016
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Fyi here is what nyc just sent out:

Notify NYC: The most common symptoms of COVID-19 are fever, cough, sore throat, shortness of breath, aches, loss of taste/smell, headache & diarrhea. If you have trouble breathing, pain/pressure in your chest, are confused or cannot stay awake, or have bluish lips/face, call 911.
 

sparkuri

Pulse on the finger of The Cimmunity
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Jan 16, 2015
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Precious

Not only did I say 4 weeks ago it "would be said to be carried by pollen", but suspected if a malaria drug is treating it, wouldn't it make sense for mosquitos to carry it?

And this from MSM today:




View: https://youtu.be/OJJvtdGgau0





Bat soup folks