General Corona virus updates

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Another added benefit of not fucking everything up from the beginning like the US - you can actually test anyone that has symptoms because you no longer need to ration the tests. In Oz, we've moved from not only making tests available to everyone but campaigning to trying to get anyone with any flu symptoms at all to get tested.

It's a virtuous cycle vs a vicious cycle. You start by getting on top of it, you can stop rationing tests, which means you catch more positives, which means you get more on top of it. You start by fucking it up, you have to ration more tests, you identify less positives, which means you get more fucked up.

It's starting to look like the US should have just gone full Sweden. If you are going to half-ass it, you might as well just focus on flattening the curve a little, pile up a few million bodies and then just move on. Because right now, you're just getting the worst of both approaches - slowly wrecking the economy while doing a piss poor job of containment.

The scary truth is though, if no vaccine/treatment can be found and this thing stays, countries like Australia will have actually made a terrible mistake by being too successful with containment, because we will just have to go through the whole thing again.

Australia has the advantage of batting the home half of the inning.

 

[ShatsBassoon]

@ShatsBassoon do your thing

 

[Rambo John J]

Texas is the best country in North America, so we have that going for us.

I wanna move there now just because they are opening back up

 

[kneeblock]

I can't say I read all that bro

but I honestly think the lack of testing is intentional

Impressive wall of text for sure, U have the gift

I agree that it's likely intentional. It's a cynical read, but it makes sense.

 

[ThatOneDude]

I wanna move there now just because they are opening back up

And because our prime meats are so much cheaper and it's socially acceptable to smoke meat all day every day.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

I agree that it's likely intentional. It's a cynical read, but it makes sense.

Cui bono?

 

[ShatsBassoon]

That's a local shortage. As I said what's true at your local store isn't necessarily true for the entire supply chain.

People also need to stop going to Costco during this pandemic, but that's another story.

I said I was only speaking of my area. People need to stop panic buying, which we just seen the full ridiculousness of the masses with the TP and hand sanitizer.

 

[Rambo John J]

That's a local shortage. As I said what's true at your local store isn't necessarily true for the entire supply chain.

People also need to stop going to Costco during this pandemic, but that's another story.

I wanna know about costco!

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

I said I was only speaking of my area. People need to stop panic buying, which we just seen the full ridiculousness of the masses with the TP and hand sanitizer.

It's funny. Every single instance of panic buying I've heard of has stemmed from Costco. The first rumblings of any of these panic buys start with "So and so was at Costco on the weekend and.....!" then the local news reports "Live from Costco wher ethe shelves are bare!!!"

Apparently people don't realize how Costco inventory works and that they frequently have empty sections, then freak the fuck out.

 

[ShatsBassoon]

Another added benefit of not fucking everything up from the beginning like the US - you can actually test anyone that has symptoms because you no longer need to ration the tests. In Oz, we've moved from not only making tests available to everyone but campaigning to trying to get anyone with any flu symptoms at all to get tested.

It's a virtuous cycle vs a vicious cycle. You start by getting on top of it, you can stop rationing tests, which means you catch more positives, which means you get more on top of it. You start by fucking it up, you have to ration more tests, you identify less positives, which means you get more fucked up.

It's starting to look like the US should have just gone full Sweden. If you are going to half-ass it, you might as well just focus on flattening the curve a little, pile up a few million bodies and then just move on. Because right now, you're just getting the worst of both approaches - slowly wrecking the economy while doing a piss poor job of containment.

The scary truth is though, if no vaccine/treatment can be found and this thing stays, countries like Australia will have actually made a terrible mistake by being too successful with containment, because we will just have to go through the whole thing again.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

I wanna know about costco!

They're business model is to order just enough of a product as they don't have a storage area. So it's common for them to have empty sections of stuff. In the current environment when people see something empty, they immediately buy as much of said item as they can the next time they see it somewhere whether they need it or not.

 

[ShatsBassoon]

It's funny. Every single instance of panic buying I've heard of has stemmed from Costco. The first rumblings of any of these panic buys start with "So and so was at Costco on the weekend and.....!" then the local news reports "Live from Costco wher ethe shelves are bare!!!"

Apparently people don't realize how Costco inventory works and that they frequently have empty sections, then freak the fuck out.

It's so stupid, people are buying massive chest freezers to fill up. Meanwhile I'm wondering why they didnt have a stocked up freezer before this pandemic.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

It's so stupid, people are buying massive chest freezers to fill up. Meanwhile I'm wondering why they didnt have a stocked up freezer before this pandemic.

I've been saying that since Day 1 of this shit.

 

[kneeblock]

Cui bono?

It allows for broader diffusion of responsibility and also allows people to not have to resort to less politically popular actions. Real contact tracing for example requires more intrusive surveillance and quarantining than what's been managed so far. Of course, there are plenty of other plausible explanations for the testing shortage from slowed manufacturing to getting out of the gate late to limited lab analysis capability. But at this point, for there not to have even been a plan or timeline of how to expand capacity and for it to not even be talked about much is negligent at the least.

 

[Rambo John J]

They're business model is to order just enough of a product as they don't have a storage area. So it's common for them to have empty sections of stuff. In the current environment when people see something empty, they immediately buy as much of said item as they can the next time they see it somewhere whether they need it or not.

oh ya
I know this

I get all hooked on something then they no longer carry it

breaks my little heart, they used to have a fresh coconut water(had to stay cold) that was pink from natural antioxidant.

I do think stories of costco fuel the panic buying...at the one here they have a dry erase board that states what they are out of as you walk in...I think that board scares the folks into filling their carts more

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

It allows for broader diffusion of responsibility and also allows people to not have to resort to less politically popular actions. Real contact tracing for example requires more intrusive surveillance and quarantining than what's been managed so far. Of course, there are plenty of other plausible explanations for the testing shortage from slowed manufacturing to getting out of the gate late to limited lab analysis capability. But at this point, for there not to have even been a plan or timeline of how to expand capacity and for it to not even be talked about much is negligent at the least.

I think you're looking for malice where stupidity will suffice.

 

[kneeblock]

I think you're looking for malice where stupidity will suffice.

Fair point.

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Turkey Flies Medical Aid to Coronavirus-Stricken U.S.

The United States, which has the highest death toll and reported cases in the global pandemic, welcomed the "generous donation" of 500,000 surgical masks, 4,000 overalls, as well as disinfectant, goggles and face shields.

 

[ShatsBassoon]

It allows for broader diffusion of responsibility and also allows people to not have to resort to less politically popular actions. Real contact tracing for example requires more intrusive surveillance and quarantining than what's been managed so far. Of course, there are plenty of other plausible explanations for the testing shortage from slowed manufacturing to getting out of the gate late to limited lab analysis capability. But at this point, for there not to have even been a plan or timeline of how to expand capacity and for it to not even be talked about much is negligent at the least.

Hey! There's a word count requirement here, buddeh!

 

[Lukewarm Carl]

it's socially acceptable to smoke meat all day every day.

You must be forgetting that in some parts of Oregon, not as much where @Inside Job is, there is a ton of meat smoking going on every day.

 

[Rambo John J]

You must be forgetting that in some parts of Oregon, not as much where @Inside Job is, there is a ton of meat smoking going on every day.

I have smelled it and even seen some engaging in it

Probably should start smoking meat myself

 

[ThatOneDude]

I have smelled it and even seen some engaging in it

Probably should start smoking meat myself

Oh man, just taking that first bite of some juicy smoked meat, nothing like it.

 

[Lukewarm Carl]

Y'all need to be careful with all that meat smoking. Too much smoking and you'll catch something and it'll kill you.

 

[ThatOneDude]

Y'all need to be careful with all that meat smoking. Too much smoking and you'll catch something and it'll kill you.

I'm so triggered right now.

 

[Rambo John J]

Y'all need to be careful with all that meat smoking. Too much smoking and you'll catch something and it'll kill you.

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