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ShatsBassoon

ShatsBassoon

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Splinty said:
To onlookers it's very unclear what you're actually arguing. I believe that the other two are arguing probably some variation but I am pretty sure that nut hugger is arguing about population spread and you're arguing about individual protection. Right?

I suspect you are arguing past each other.

Masking limits viral spread. Sick people should be wearing mask even outside of this pandemic.

Universal masking in a world of asymptomatic spreaders is better than just masking the symptomatically ill. That's due to our limitation in further technology, but it works given our current circumstances and limitations.

The inoculum theory remains and is suggestive of being true in that very paper. That is, you spread around a lower viral load especially in high density areas while wearing a mask. If you get somebody sick, those around you are less likely to have severe illness because of a lower initial viral load and subsequent inflammatory response. That's the theory and there's some developing data suggestive of this.
They then reference data suggestive that this is the case but it is not a study just a review.



When you say wearing a mask does not prevent infection, that's a very ambiguous statement given the above. Wearing a mask absolutely unequivocally prevents covid19 population infections when counting number infections with mask or without masks.

You seem to be arguing about an individual wearing one mask and going about their day and wondering if their ability to catch the Rona is zero. It is not but that doesn't make your statement accurate to the conversation above where those two were arguing about whether mask "stop Rona" or "do very little".

Masks limit spread and with that you have a lower population rate of cases.
Masks Do not have strong evidence of protecting the person wearing them from incoming viral droplets. They do limit The amount of incoming viral droplets. Well people probably don't get much benefit from masks. But given the lag time of symptoms it has proven an effective measure to attenuate the asymptomatically ill.
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madmav

madmav

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would it be okay to post a gofund me here? we are half way to our funding point. cost of cremation plus extra funeral services are topping $5000 but we are asking for $3000.
 
SongExotic2

SongExotic2

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madmav said:
would it be okay to post a gofund me here? we are half way to our funding point. cost of cremation plus extra funeral services are topping $5000 but we are asking for $3000.
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Of course dude. I'm sure anyone who can help will.
 
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ThatOneDude said:
Have you ever been to Yale? Those people are a bunch of degenerate alcoholics, the Bush daughters were not odd in that regard.
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My biggest regret in life is that I did not go to the university of Texas so that I could have had a chance to marry a bush daughter
 
ThatOneDude

ThatOneDude

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Splinty said:
My biggest regret in life is that I did not go to the university of Texas so that I could have had a chance to marry a bush daughter
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That's an understandable regret. You would have obviously taken their name I assume.
 
Hauler

Hauler

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Splinty said:
news.yale.edu

Yale study finds expanded jobless benefits did not reduce employment

The analysis, supported by Yale’s Tobin Center for Economic Policy, comes as Congress debates whether to extend the expanded unemployment benefits.
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Yale can suck my fucking dick with that bullshit.

I just got off the phone with a guy in Mansfield, Ohio who is trying to hire 7 guys to get to his normal level of 30 employees. I was calling him about teaming up on a job I have going on, but we eventually started talking about staffing because he doesn't know if he can help me out because he can't find workers.

Lumber mills haven't been able to staff up and it is causing a HUGE run on lumber pricing right now. Don't believe me? Go to your local Home Depot or Lowes and take a walk down the treated aisle. Pickings are likely pretty slim.

Pricing is going through the roof. In April you could buy 1/2" OSB at around $12 a sheet retail. Now you're looking at $20 to $25, depending on how closely the store is keeping an eye on the market.

The ramifications are already being felt, and if America doesn't get back to work and stop this fucking nonsense it's only going to get worse.
 
Hauler

Hauler

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Public Address for the forum: If you are looking to buy a NEW house, now is not the time. Lumber is up about 60% from it's trailing 2 year average, and all of that movement happened in the last 4 months.
 
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ThatOneDude

ThatOneDude

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Hauler said:
Public Address for the forum: If you are looking to buy a house, now is not the time. Lumber is up about 60% from it's trailing 2 year average, and all of that movement happened in the last 4 months.
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Does that mean my current house is worth more?

Because I'd like to run away and move as far away from people as possible.
 
Hauler

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ThatOneDude said:
Does that mean my current house is worth more?

Because I'd like to run away and move as far away from people as possible.
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It will definitely lead to a sellers market if we aren't already there. When people can't afford to build new they look at existing homes closer to their price range.

Lumber usually represents about 20% of the cost of a new home. So with this market being up 50% (which is still rising), what might have been a $320,000 home is now going to cost the buyer $416,000.
 
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