Dada 5000's family 'appalled' at 'overtly racist' comments made by Joe Rogan

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Everybody's a victim begging for apologies. What a pussy society we live in... Oh wait, calling someone a pussy is sexist because it implies that women are weaker than men and creates a negative connotation around a woman's privates...



I'm just glad the guy didn't die, thankfully.
 

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My man, it's easy to say all that when it's not directed at you.

Black people say racist shit, two wrongs don't make a right, but it is absolutely not the same thing. It's not like slavery ended & everything was awesome for blacks. Blacks more like to end up in jail if they don't get killed by cops first.

Unless you've lived it or been around it, it's hard to understand. I've gotten fucked with just for being brown. It was worse when I hung with black dudes. The looks we'd get, the shit we got from cops. Just cause we weren't white.

If you wanna stop putting people into little groups, then stop putting people into little groups. Calling Dada a fat, out of shape slob was enough. Rogan put him into a little group when he made it racial.

I post the racial context of fried chicken, & some of you just don't get it. More than one person has tried to explain that it's not your business to tell anyone how they're supposed to feel about something that's directed at their group & not yours. That's fine, but enough with the 'stop trying to racist shit in ever little thing.'' Well, how about people like Rogan stop saying racist shit? And how about you stop complaining when people call him out on it?

Personal responsibility, right???
I still don't agree with you.

Nothing racist about what Rogan said. He mentioned cheeseburger, fried chicken, and orange soda. I thought majority win all the time what happened? 2 out of 3 items were not mentioned but they decide to go with 1 thing!!? Its like the Nick Diaz test! He passed 2 out of 3 and went with 1 that was not credible. Plus Rogan said in his podcast he didn't intend anything racial, so aren't we good??

I might get banned or hated on for saying this but i'm gonna say it.

I'm asian, and black people outnumber our people in America. We're minorities and get shit on by all race, but not really a big deal. We just shut the fuk up and move on to own small businesses, get ourselves out of poverty,(very few asian bums) get education, become docs or lawyers or become super successful and get fuckin rich so we can laugh at all the dumbfucks that likes to sit around and just complain complain. So coming from where i'm coming from, i think certain black people complain too fucking much. Its a joke, part of comedy podcast, rogan said they didn't intend anything racial.

Only problem that i saw that added on to the problem was white knighters. I know people agree but they don't say shit cuz they don't want to be looked as racist.
 
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I still don't agree with you.

Nothing racist about what Rogan said. He mentioned cheeseburger, fried chicken, and orange soda. I thought majority win all the time what happened? 2 out of 3 items were not mentioned but they decide to go with 1 thing!!? Its like the Nick Diaz test! He passed 2 out of 3 and went with 1 that was not credible. Plus Rogan said in his podcast he didn't intend anything racial, so aren't we good??

I might get banned or hated on for saying this but i'm gonna say it.

I'm asian, and black people outnumber our people in America. We're minorities and get shit on by all race, but not really a big deal. We just shut the fuk up and move on to own small businesses, get ourselves out of poverty,(very few asian bums) get education, become docs or lawyers or become super successful and get fuckin rich so we can laugh at all the dumbfucks that likes to sit around and just complain complain. So coming from where i'm coming from, i think certain black people complain too fucking much. Its a joke, part of comedy podcast, rogan said they didn't intend anything racial.

Only problem that i saw that added on to the problem was white knighters. I know people agree but they don't say shit cuz they don't want to be looked as racist.
Why would you get banned for this? I don't see how.

I said it before and i'll say it again, i highly doubt Joe had any malice in his heart. He's a comedian, and comedians like to make people laugh. I've inadvertently crossed cultural boundaries in my life before. Unless a person is extremely sheltered, i'd venture that most people have. It doesn't make you a racist.

Those people that would say that there is no cultural stereotype for fried chicken and African Americans are deluding themselves however. A simple Google search would show them how wrong they are.

Good on any culture that strives to better themselves, 100% homie. :D
 

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I still don't agree with you.

Nothing racist about what Rogan said. He mentioned cheeseburger, fried chicken, and orange soda. I thought majority win all the time what happened? 2 out of 3 items were not mentioned but they decide to go with 1 thing!!? Its like the Nick Diaz test! He passed 2 out of 3 and went with 1 that was not credible. Plus Rogan said in his podcast he didn't intend anything racial, so aren't we good??

I might get banned or hated on for saying this but i'm gonna say it.

I'm asian, and black people outnumber our people in America. We're minorities and get shit on by all race, but not really a big deal. We just shut the fuk up and move on to own small businesses, get ourselves out of poverty,(very few asian bums) get education, become docs or lawyers or become super successful and get fuckin rich so we can laugh at all the dumbfucks that likes to sit around and just complain complain. So coming from where i'm coming from, i think certain black people complain too fucking much. Its a joke, part of comedy podcast, rogan said they didn't intend anything racial.

Only problem that i saw that added on to the problem was white knighters. I know people agree but they don't say shit cuz they don't want to be looked as racist.
That's okay. I don't agree with you - at all. I explained why a bunch of times, no need to repeat myself.

I think Rogan's full of shit (we've gone over the fried chicken thing), & yet, I still think you're a good dude. I don't hate you & certainly don't think you should be banned for anything you posted. And, overall, I think you're a good poster. We just don't see eye to eye (although it's tough when the mutherfucker you disagree with can be blinded by dental floss :) ).

For what's worth, I'm mixed (brown mom, white Latino dad who you'd never guess was Latino) which I think I mentioned before.

I can live with that. I hope you can, too.

I don't really have much more to say, my fren.
 

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That's okay. I don't agree with you - at all. I explained why a bunch of times, no need to repeat myself.

I think Rogan's full of shit (we've gone over the fried chicken thing), & yet, I still think you're a good dude. I don't hate you & certainly don't think you should be banned for anything you posted. And, overall, I think you're a good poster. We just don't see eye to eye (although it's tough when the mutherfucker you disagree with can be blinded by dental floss :) ).

For what's worth, I'm mixed (brown mom, white Latino dad who you'd never guess was Latino) which I think I mentioned before.

I can live with that. I hope you can, too.

I don't really have much more to say, my fren.
heard that line plenty of times! about dental floss. Have you heard "is everything you watch on Wide Screen?"
 

tang

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Why would you get banned for this? I don't see how.

I said it before and i'll say it again, i highly doubt Joe had any malice in his heart. He's a comedian, and comedians like to make people laugh. I've inadvertently crossed cultural boundaries in my life before. Unless a person is extremely sheltered, i'd venture that most people have. It doesn't make you a racist.

Those people that would say that there is no cultural stereotype for fried chicken and African Americans are deluding themselves however. A simple Google search would show them how wrong they are.

Good on any culture that strives to better themselves, 100% homie. :D
idk bro. these days you have to be real cautious of what you say :D
 

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heard that line plenty of times! about dental floss. Have you heard "is everything you watch on Wide Screen?"
No man, but I get shit all the time cause I'm a brown dude who hates spicy food. I think I heard the dental floss thing from that great humanitarian Andrew Dice Clay, in the 80's.
 

soundoff71

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idk bro. these days you have to be real cautious of what you say :D
You stated your opinion, which is more or less an 'up by your bootstrappers/rise above' point of view, in a direct way. You didn't say anything like 'black people need to put down the watermelon & get over it'. To me, that's crossing the line.

While I don't agree with you, if anyone tried to have you banned or whatever, my basic argument would be 'fuck that'.
 
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idk bro. these days you have to be real cautious of what you say :D
You stated your opinion, which is more or less an 'up by your bootstrappers/rise above' point of view, in a direct way. You didn't say anything like 'black people need to put down the watermelon & get over it'. To me, that's crossing the line.

While I don't agree with you, if anyone tried to have you banned or whatever, my basic argument would be 'fuck that'.
Seconded.
 

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tang @Tang

Immigrants (I am the child of two, who came here with nothing) aren't remotely in the same boat as people descended from slaves, and inheritors of all the strategies of power that have been in play during and since slavery to keep the power structures that created slavery in play. If you don't know that they're in play, it's because you're ignorant of history, not because they're not in play.

Those same strategies affect you, and all non-whites, but not in the same way as Americans descended from slaves, or who were raised in communities themselves primarily consisting of the descendants of slaves. That I can even say that last part and that it makes sense to your brain, that there should be such a thing as "communiites primarily consisting of descendants of slaves" should be a wake up call to your rational mind, in and of itself, laying there dormant in your very own head.

I used to waste a lot of time discussing shit like this in forums, because I felt like the best place to do battle is someplace where the enemy exists in the greatest numbers, and because this was an area of (formal) study for me -- useless in most daily life unless used, in some way, in life daily. But II'm old and lazy now. I could give a shit. People are ignorant because they want to be. Better to spend my leisure time handicapping fights or applying my brain to some puzzle that has a material outcome.

But...the idea that because you're both not-white, you have some extra-special ground to speak on black-white history in America is straight up delusional, if you are just as ignorant of that history as the rest of unread, white America. Do you know who John Hope Franklin is? If you want to make me wrong, you could start there.

And what Rogan said was racist. It's just not obvious to most non-blacks because they haven't known enough black people, or perhaps really any, except divorced from black communities. And it doesn't matter whether Rogan intended it as racist (I'm sure he didn't), or whether it offends you or not. A thing's being racist or not isn't a function of whether you find it offensive. The statements and humor-base of "chicken and kool ade" or "grape drank" themselves are racist. Forget for a second what your own desires are, whether you get pleasure from those jokes or not, and it's pretty obvious that the content is racist. It just shows how stupid we are, as humans, that it's so easy to kid ourselves about it.

Dada and his entourage are just as likely to be into urban farming and other stuff you might not imagine as going to Popeyes or whatever stereotype based imaginings. If you're a racist, what I just said probably just struck you as outlandish. But it's a fact. There's all kind of grassroots shit going on in "neighborhoods" that privileged people don't know about, and would prefer not to know about, because the view most people who aren't black and "from neighborhoods" get a lot of pleasure from the imagining the world is just like they enjoy imagining it to be.
 
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I could clarify that when I typed that about urban farms, I kind of snorted at myself. Even though I know it to be true, from firsthand experience with friends in different communities in both the Midwest and the deep South. That's because I'm a racist.

Guess what: if you're an American, you're a racist -- not by intent, but by lifelong indoctrination. It's unavoidable. We're just products of our time, little more, little less. Human beings are still, politically, neanderthals -- or even lizards, if you can relate to that better.
 

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tang @Tang

Immigrants (I am the child of two, who came here with nothing) aren't remotely in the same boat as people descended from slaves, and inheritors of all the strategies of power that have been in play during and since slavery to keep the power structures that created slavery in play. If you don't know that they're in play, it's because you're ignorant of history, not because they're not in play.

Those same strategies affect you, and all non-whites, but not in the same way as Americans descended from slaves, or who were raised in communities themselves primarily consisting of the descendants of slaves. That I can even say that last part and that it makes sense to your brain, that there should be such a thing as "communiites primarily consisting of descendants of slaves" should be a wake up call to your rational mind, in and of itself, laying there dormant in your very own head.

I used to waste a lot of time discussing shit like this in forums, because I felt like the best place to do battle is someplace where the enemy exists in the greatest numbers, and because this was an area of (formal) study for me -- useless in most daily life unless used, in some way, in life daily. But II'm old and lazy now. I could give a shit. People are ignorant because they want to be. Better to spend my leisure time handicapping fights or applying my brain to some puzzle that has a material outcome.

But...the idea that because you're both not-white, you have some extra-special ground to speak on black-white history in America is straight up delusional, if you are just as ignorant of that history as the rest of unread, white America. Do you know who John Hope Franklin is? If you want to make me wrong, you could start there.

And what Rogan said was racist. It's just not obvious to most non-blacks because they haven't known enough black people, or perhaps really any, except divorced from black communities. And it doesn't matter whether Rogan intended it as racist (I'm sure he didn't), or whether it offends you or not. A thing's being racist or not isn't a function of whether you find it offensive. The statements and humor-base of "chicken and kool ade" or "grape drank" themselves are racist. Forget for a second what your own desires are, whether you get pleasure from those jokes or not, and it's pretty obvious that the content is racist. It just shows how stupid we are, as humans, that it's so easy to kid ourselves about it.

Dada and his entourage are just as likely to be into urban farming and other stuff you might not imagine as going to Popeyes or whatever stereotype based imaginings. If you're a racist, what I just said probably just struck you as outlandish. But it's a fact. There's all kind of grassroots shit going on in "neighborhoods" that privileged people don't know about, and would prefer not to know about, because the view most people who aren't black and "from neighborhoods" get a lot of pleasure from the imagining the world is just like they enjoy imagining it to be.
I was in ESL class and didn't finish college bro. I kind of get what you're saying but not really. I guess you are educated in this field. Not going to argue with you over black-white history in America but my sources are usually my own experience. I'm not saying I have a special privilege to speak on these issues because I'm non-white, but as a person who experienced extreme racism, I think it's silly to call Racist over every little thing. I've lived in Montgomery Alabama, have some close black friends from the military, and used to do community service (fix up and paint houses) in Compton, CA and fully aware of what their suffering is. Fine, maybe Rogan was being unintentionally racist with Fried Chicken comment but I still think certain black people complain waaaay too much over something that could be just passed as a joke. I also think Dada's family was just mad at Rogan over other comments too like (Dada didn't even train, He was in no shape to be in Main Event,) and they just used the Racist card to try to get back at Rogan.
 

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Seems pertinent to current discussions about Rogan talking about Shaub's comments. Seems connected somehow.

I had forgotten about this incident. It's easy for any of us to say stupid things. I'm just glad that I don't have a microphone in front of me a lot.
 

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He made fun of black culture, and that is not racist. How many wooden shoes jokes do I have to endure, is that racist too? Makes no fucking sense to me.

So it's only racist of the recipients is non-white? That by itself is more racist than any type of comment on one's culture. We have to segregate humor by color? To think you can only make fun at Irish culture, or Dutch, or other predominantly white cultures, that is racist. It's also excluding non-whites as regular people, thus, being the butt of a joke every now and then.

Schaub's comments were different, he injected race into his reasoning.