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Pitbull9

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Lmao. Trump is part of the corporate interests. He only has his own money because he commits pump and dump schemes, and appeared on a US reality TV show. Bernie Sanders is another choice, at least he has been consistent in his voting and stance, from my admittedly limited knowledge. Or you can keep voting for 1%ers and hope trickle down scraps economics works for you.
Actually im in the bracket that will be just fine lol, but seriously his only pump and dump scheme seemed to have been AC and we cant really blame him on that one. What corporate interests in he a part of that will cause a problem? Bernie Sander while i do agree is a good guy im not sure he is what we need right now.
 

SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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So the mma fighter Bubba Jenkins recently said that he never voted before and only voted the first time for Obama because he was black. He admitted he knows nothing else and doesn't care. So voting for someone solely based on skin color is an educated vote, thanks for clearing that up for me.

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I'm not worried about Bubba Jenkins, there's plenty of other Bubba's all over this country voting for Trump simply because he 'speaks for the white man'. The fact that you've veered from education to some random MMA fighter cleared things up for me as well.

Here's the facts.....black people can say they are voting for a black candidate from now until doomsday, the truth is that if they were inclined to vote Democrat they were going to for whoever is there right now.

Can you explain why there is 3 percentage points between Gore and Obama?
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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There are uneducated voters on both sides. Those that vote Democrat for free handouts and those that vote Republican because they hate foreigners and Muslims.
While as a blanket statement I think this is true, but some of the most racist welfare hating people I know work union jobs and will vote democrat everytime. I just have to shake my head at the hypocrisy that comes out of their mouths.
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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I'm not worried about Bubba Jenkins, there's plenty of other Bubba's all over this country voting for Trump simply because he 'speaks for the white man'. The fact that you've veered from education to some random MMA fighter cleared things up for me as well.

Here's the facts.....black people can say they are voting for a black candidate from now until doomsday, the truth is that if they were inclined to vote Democrat they were going to for whoever is there right now.

Can you explain why there is 3 percentage points between Gore and Obama?
So there is no difference between 90% of 10 people voting and 90% of 1 million? What's the difference in the actual number of votes?

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SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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I think his hype is what makes people think this, when in actuality like i said before he is much different behind closed doors and he isnt as ballsy as he is making himself out to be. He wont allow us getting fucked with too much but he wont have his finger on that button as quick as everyone thinks.

Just a question who do you think would be good at this point since at the end of the day they all suck.
Well you either take him at his word or you don't. I mean, isn't the appeal of Donald that he is exactly who he says he is? I for one believe that he is EXACTLY what he portrays himself as, and that's NOT refreshing, it's scary.

I would've preferred Elizabeth Warren and would like Bernie over Hill except that I see no way for Bernie to win.

I don't do Republican because of their social stances. If they were more concerned with actual issues I could see Graham or Kasich as common sense choices.

Everybody else is courting the loony tune vote, just seeing how angry they can get everybody so that they can get a pissed vote.
 

Pitbull9

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Well you either take him at his word or you don't. I mean, isn't the appeal of Donald that he is exactly who he says he is? I for one believe that he is EXACTLY what he portrays himself as, and that's NOT refreshing, it's scary.

I would've preferred Elizabeth Warren and would like Bernie over Hill except that I see no way for Bernie to win.

I don't do Republican because of their social stances. If they were more concerned with actual issues I could see Graham or Kasich as common sense choices.

Everybody else is courting the loony tune vote, just seeing how angry they can get everybody so that they can get a pissed vote.
Jesus Graham! oh fuck me please no lol.
 

Leigh

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While as a blanket statement I think this is true, but some of the most racist welfare hating people I know work union jobs and will vote democrat everytime. I just have to shake my head at the hypocrisy that comes out of their mouths.
Hypocrites are also not in short supply.

Most of the welfare haters that vote Republican are actually supported by the state, even if they have jobs. Schooling, roads, emergency services etc are not free and taxes on a $15k job don't cover it.
 

SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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So there is no difference between 90% of 10 people voting and 90% of 1 million? What's the difference in the actual number of votes?

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The reason why they call it a statistical dead-heat is because it's margin of error.

Again, you seem to be totally convinced and sitting on 3% but have written off the entirely white crowds and sentiments when it comes to Trump. Even the united cast of hate groups have publicly endorsed him.

But in your characterization we should just look right over that.
 

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The reason why they call it a statistical dead-heat is because it's margin of error.

Again, you seem to be totally convinced and sitting on 3% but have written off the entirely white crowds and sentiments when it comes to Trump. Even the united cast of hate groups have publicly endorsed him.

But in your characterization we should just look right over that.
All I was talking about was people voting solely for someone based on color of skin. Its a statistical fact more people voted for Obama than Gore. If 90% is always the same 90% then would you choose 90% of ten dollars or 90% of a million dollars?
 

Leigh

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So what are the options in the up coming election? Hilary or Trump? What a clusterfuck.

Obama went on a power trip when he got voted in. Bush before him was a warmonger.

The UK is no better. We have a right wing that doesn't care about the people and the left opposition is so fascist that I honestly think Corbyn might be mentally ill.
 

SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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All I was talking about was people voting solely for someone based on color of skin. Its a statistical fact more people voted for Obama than Gore. If 90% is always the same 90% then would you choose 90% of ten dollars or 90% of a million dollars?
I'm sure I'm confused about what you're trying to portray here.

Your facts: I heard an MMA fighter (and possibly other people) say they were going to vote Obama in because he was black.

My facts: 90% voted for Gore - 93% voted for Obama

Your facts: The remaining 3% all voted for Obama because he was black.

Then you pointed out education as if we should spend a special amount of time on dumb black people more than we do dumb white people.

You're functioning from a lot of assumptions. I don't want to say this but I'd say you have some bias going on.
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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I'm sure I'm confused about what you're trying to portray here.

Your facts: I heard an MMA fighter (and possibly other people) say they were going to vote Obama in because he was black.

My facts: 90% voted for Gore - 93% voted for Obama

Your facts: The remaining 3% all voted for Obama because he was black.

Then you pointed out education as if we should spend a special amount of time on dumb black people more than we do dumb white people.

You're functioning from a lot of assumptions. I don't want to say this but I'd say you have some bias going on.
Not biased at all, I just said that a vote based solely on skin color is u educated and gave you an example of a educated black man that admitted he cast a vote based solely on skin color. I did make the assumption, probably a valid assumption, that there were more people that voted the same way for same reason. I also stated that there were a lot of white people that did same thing. You are making this about race, not me.

I like you Abe, don't take it so personal.

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SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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Not biased at all, I just said that a vote based solely on skin color is u educated and gave you an example of a educated black man that admitted he cast a vote based solely on skin color. I did make the assumption, probably a valid assumption, that there were more people that voted the same way for same reason. I also stated that there were a lot of white people that did same thing. You are making this about race, not me.

I like you Abe, don't take it so personal.

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No no no

You misunderstand both my tone and intention. I like this board because people here can discuss this while still maintaining respect. I enjoy vehement disagreements as long as in that disagreement you can really see the logic in everybody's stance. I don't have a personal bone to pick with anybody here, in fact I'm hoping that people take it as a compliment that I feel open enough to even speak about this. I don't engage politics anywhere else, I know what I'm in for.

My problem with Trump is that his logic lies in demagoguery, not in issue resolution.

My frustration is that otherwise normal Americans are finding themselves swept-up in and agreeing with FEELINGS.

If ISIS specifically endorsed Obama what would everybody think? David Duke himself endorses Trump yet people keep acting like nothing but the rent is going on.

He has proposed suspending the constitution for this Muslim thing and censoring the Internet. He just shit on free speech early today, yet the people who keep talking about it will give him another pass.

It's like these otherwise normal Republicans will sell-out all of their viewpoints simply to stick with Trump.

It's just a wow to me.
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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No no no

You misunderstand both my tone and intention. I like this board because people here can discuss this while still maintaining respect. I enjoy vehement disagreements as long as in that disagreement you can really see the logic in everybody's stance. I don't have a personal bone to pick with anybody here, in fact I'm hoping that people take it as a compliment that I feel open enough to even speak about this. I don't engage politics anywhere else, I know what I'm in for.

My problem with Trump is that his logic lies in demagoguery, not in issue resolution.

My frustration is that otherwise normal Americans are finding themselves swept-up in and agreeing with FEELINGS.

If ISIS specifically endorsed Obama what would everybody think? David Duke himself endorses Trump yet people keep acting like nothing but the rent is going on.

He has proposed suspending the constitution for this Muslim thing and censoring the Internet. He just shit on free speech early today, yet the people who keep talking about it will give him another pass.

It's like these otherwise normal Republicans will sell-out all of their viewpoints simply to stick with Trump.

It's just a wow to me.
I think both parties are like that. The voters will completely sell out for the party. Its like the reference I made to some trade union guys I know. Some of the biggest hunters, have more guns than anyone really should, cuss blacks for not working and mexicans for taking their jobs yet turn around and vote the same way as gun haters, blacks and mexicans because their union rep told them. Completely sell out imo.
 

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So Trump is good because he says what he thinks, but is really different behind closed doors? Wut? How is that different from any other bullshitter then?
And hiring the right people.. like whom? So people who are in the game already anyway, right? If not, how does he know they are the right people? Will he find them through a TV-show? Its probably a cop-out for not getting into details, and/or a sign that it will be the same people anyway.
And does this guy strike you as somebody who shares power or sees sense when somebody disagrees with his agenda?

I don't know, sounds to me like people want to believe in him and his feelings, his feelings seems right for you, correct? But aren't those just empty words though? Has he made any substantial suggestions? Same as many people liked Obama for that, he seemed to be different, came with hope. A lot of it did not pay off since it wasn't possible in reality, or not wanted in reality.
Now Trump tries the hope-thing just from another origin. But far more dangerous imho, with fear.

And don't you think you are a tad too pessimistic about your current state of affairs over there? Is your life that bad? What do you fear?

You know who else came into office because the current system seemed to fail, who hated big on it, who spoke out very loudly and passionate, used fear, and who talked discriminatingly and racially? Who made himself to be an economical hope as well? And who also had a lot of people thinking he was the right man at the right time, making people overlook the problems that came with him?
Make your own guess.

PS: He really was different behind closed doors though.
And not saying Trump is as radical of course. But man, be careful in which baskets you put your eggs.
 
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SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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I think both parties are like that. The voters will completely sell out for the party. Its like the reference I made to some trade union guys I know. Some of the biggest hunters, have more guns than anyone really should, cuss blacks for not working and mexicans for taking their jobs yet turn around and vote the same way as gun haters, blacks and mexicans because their union rep told them. Completely sell out imo.
To an extent yes, I agree, but never anything like this imo.

To date, Donald has not offered one concrete idea besides saying he's going to have the smartest people take care of everything.

He's floundered in the debates and had little to offer at all in the second outing.

He pretended to be Christian and could not quote the bible, it was pretty tongue and cheek how everybody ignored that.

Multiple marriages.

Significant failure in businesses.

Proposed a wall that no economist in the world agreed could be built.

Is now asking for the constitution and Internet to be altered.

Realistically the only thing Trump has is baiting and it's winning him votes. Watch what he says the next time he starts to drop. See if it has anything to do with xenophobia. I guarantee it will because he knows his audience.

Again, minus Cruz and Carson I could at least understand voting for an alternative since they have principled CONSERVATIVE points for people who claim to be conservative. Trump walks over all the things Republicans say they stand on and none of these people call him on it.

I am legitimately afraid of the Trump option.
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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To an extent yes, I agree, but never anything like this imo.

To date, Donald has not offered one concrete idea besides saying he's going to have the smartest people take care of everything.

He's floundered in the debates and had little to offer at all in the second outing.

He pretended to be Christian and could not quote the bible, it was pretty tongue and cheek how everybody ignored that.

Multiple marriages.

Significant failure in businesses.

Proposed a wall that no economist in the world agreed could be built.

Is now asking for the constitution and Internet to be altered.

Realistically the only thing Trump has is baiting and it's winning him votes. Watch what he says the next time he starts to drop. See if it has anything to do with xenophobia. I guarantee it will because he knows his audience.

Again, minus Cruz and Carson I could at least understand voting for an alternative since they have principled CONSERVATIVE points for people who claim to be conservative. Trump walks over all the things Republicans say they stand on and none of these people call him on it.

I am legitimately afraid of the Trump option.
You give the president too much credit. Nothing is going to change untill we have term limits for congressman and senators, then people won't be scared to do something.
 

SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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You give the president too much credit. Nothing is going to change untill we have term limits for congressman and senators, then people won't be scared to do something.
I give THIS possible President too much credit. I am not specifically talking about his legislative power, I'm talking about influence.

The wrong people are feeling empowered right now. A mosque just got a pig head thrown on it's doorstep.

It only takes a few of the wrong people in power to change the tone in this country.

Right now hatred is at a premium.
 

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And I'm just sitting here in Texas like...JADE HELM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN! FEMA CAMPS AND JADE HELM! THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO IS BUY GOLD AND PRAY TO GOD THE NUKE IS FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM YOUR HOME THAT YOU'RE NOT PLAYING FALLOUT 4 FOR REAL!!!

 

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To an extent yes, I agree, but never anything like this imo.

To date, Donald has not offered one concrete idea besides saying he's going to have the smartest people take care of everything.

He's floundered in the debates and had little to offer at all in the second outing.

He pretended to be Christian and could not quote the bible, it was pretty tongue and cheek how everybody ignored that.

Multiple marriages.

Significant failure in businesses.

Proposed a wall that no economist in the world agreed could be built.

Is now asking for the constitution and Internet to be altered.

Realistically the only thing Trump has is baiting and it's winning him votes. Watch what he says the next time he starts to drop. See if it has anything to do with xenophobia. I guarantee it will because he knows his audience.

Again, minus Cruz and Carson I could at least understand voting for an alternative since they have principled CONSERVATIVE points for people who claim to be conservative. Trump walks over all the things Republicans say they stand on and none of these people call him on it.

I am legitimately afraid of the Trump option.
So you don't like Trump because he's not a traditional Republican?
 
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Is Trump’s Tax Plan Revenue Neutral?

Donald Trump claims his tax plan is “revenue neutral,” but tax experts say that just isn’t so. Not by a long stretch.

Even assuming the tax cuts would promote economic growth, the pro-business Tax Foundation estimates the Trump plan would reduce revenues to the Treasury by more than $10 trillion over 10 years.

Separately, Roberton Williams of the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center said it would require “substantial budget cuts” to make up for lost revenues.

The Trump tax plan, which he unveiled in a Sept. 28 press conference, includes deep tax cuts for individuals and businesses alike. And, he said, “all of this does not add to our debt or our deficit.” A position statement outlining the tax plan on Trump’s campaign website says the “tax cuts are fully paid for” by reducing or eliminating some individual and corporate tax preferences, and by repatriating corporate cash held overseas.

Trump is also banking on the plan spurring economic growth to generate new revenue. In a Sept. 28 piece penned for the Wall Street Journal, Trump again boasted, “With moderate growth, this plan will be revenue-neutral.”

Given the generous tax cuts proposed in the plan, however, Alan Cole, an economist with the Tax Foundation, said he was “puzzled” by Trump’s claim that the plan would be revenue neutral.

After performing an analysis of Trump’s proposal, Cole wrote in a blog post, “I do not believe this to be true under any scenario remotely resembling Mr. Trump’s plan.” The post ran under the unequivocal headline, “Donald Trump’s Tax Plan Will Not Be Revenue-Neutral Under Any Circumstances.”

The Tax Foundation estimates Trump’s plan would cut taxes by nearly $12 trillion over a decade on a so-called “static” basis, meaning not taking into consideration how tax cuts could spur economic growth and increase revenues. The Tax Foundation believes the plan would increase incentives to work and invest, thereby spurring the economy. But even assuming that added revenue bump, called “dynamic scoring,” the Trump plan is expected to reduce tax revenues by just over $10 trillion over a decade, the Tax Foundation estimates.

And that’s because the tax cuts proposed by Trump are so deep, Cole does not believe any of the offsetting revenue streams — like reducing or eliminating personal and corporate tax expenditures — would be nearly enough to offset the revenue lost by those cuts.

The Proposed Cuts
On the individual side, Trump’s plan would consolidate the current seven tax brackets into four. One of the biggest revenue reducers would come from Trump’s proposal to reduce the top individual income tax rate from 39.6 percent to 25 percent. Trump would also expand the number of Americans who pay no taxes.

Under the Trump plan, single filers making $25,000 or less, or married couples making $50,000 or less, would pay zero income tax (or as Trump put it, they would fill out a one-page letter to the IRS that says “I win”). Trump says that would remove nearly 75 million households – over 50 percent – from the income tax rolls. But many of them are already not paying federal income taxes.

According to a Tax Policy Center analysis, about 67.3 million tax filers (41.4 percent of all tax filers) paid no federal income tax in 2014. Eric Toder, co-director of the Tax Policy Center, said it’s difficult to know how many more might be removed from federal tax obligations under Trump’s plan until he provides further details about how the plan would be structured.

While the Tax Foundation analysis found that the tax cuts would lead to lower taxes for taxpayers at all levels of income, the biggest winners — in raw dollars and on a percentage basis — would be those in the top 10 percent of filers, particularly those in the top 1 percent. Still, Cole wrote in a blog post on Sept. 30 that the plan “also contains a very large middle-class tax cut.”

According to the Tax Foundation analysis, after-tax income would increase by 3 percent for those in the 30 percent to 40 percent decile, and 8.9 percent in the 80 percent to 90 percent decile (on a static basis). Those in the top decile would see an increase in after-tax income of 14.6 percent.

On the corporate side, Trump would cut the corporate income tax rate from 35 percent to 15 percent. Similarly, pass-through businesses — independent contractors, small LLCs etc., which are currently taxed as ordinary income up to a top rate of 39.6 percent — would be taxed at 15 percent. Trump also would do away with the estate tax.

“Putting all that together, you are going to see a multitrillion dollar reduction in revenues,” Cole said, “considerably larger than the plans of any other Republican candidates to date.”

By comparison, for example, an analysis of Jeb Bush’s tax plan by the Tax Foundation concluded Bush would cut taxes by $3.6 trillion over the next decade on a static basis, but would reduce tax revenue by $1.6 trillion when factoring in the economic growth that the pro-business group assumes the plan would generate. Said Cole, “Trump’s plan is similar to Bush’s, but with larger rate cuts in every area.”

The Offsets
According to the Trump campaign website, the Trump tax cuts are “fully paid for” through three main revenue generators: “reducing or eliminating most deductions and loopholes available to the very rich”; a “one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10 percent tax rate, followed by an end to the deferral of taxes on corporate income earned abroad”; and “[r]educing or eliminating corporate loopholes that cater to special interests, as well as deductions made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rate on corporations and business income.”

In addition, Trump’s plan said it would “phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of business interest expenses.”

Notably, however, Trump said he would preserve charitable giving and mortgage interest deductions — two of the largest income tax deductions — which account for about 10 percent of all tax expenditures.

The mortgage interest deduction is expected to reduce revenues to the Treasury by nearly $70 billion in 2015, and by more than $1 trillion over the next 10 years, while revenues lost to charitable contribution deductions amount to about $54 billion in 2015, or about $745 billion over the next 10 years, according to the White House Office of Management and Budget. In all, tax expenditures cost the government $1.2 trillion in 2014.

Trump also plans to keep the earned income tax credit, which is expected to cause a revenue hit of $63 billion this year, and the child tax credit, which reduces revenue by about $46 billion.

But even if all of the exclusions, deductions and tax preferences were cut, Cole said, “it’s not possible to get there [to revenue neutral].”

One offset that will not raise much new revenue is one that Trump repeatedly has touted on the campaign trail: taxing “carried interest” earned by hedge fund managers’ portfolio profits as ordinary income rather than capital gains.

Capital gains are taxed at a lower maximum rate than most ordinary income, which carries a top tax rate of 39.6 percent. “The hedge fund guys are getting away with murder,” Trump said on CBS’ “Face the Nation” on Aug. 23.

When Obama proposed taxing carried interest as ordinary income as part of his 2016 budget proposal, the Joint Committee on Taxation estimated it would bring in an additional $15.6 billion over the next 10 years. But Trump is proposing a top rate of 25 percent. So under Trump’s plan, carried interest would be taxed at a top rate of 25 percent, rather than the current 23.8 percent. That’s not much of an increase.

In fact, most hedge fund managers may actually see an overall tax cut. Vox analyzed Bush’s tax plan, which similarly proposed to tax carried interest as ordinary income, but at a top rate of 28 percent. Vox concluded that most hedge fund managers would see an overall tax decrease because other parts of their income derived from a percentage of the value of their portfolios — currently taxed as ordinary income up to a top rate of 39.6 percent — would only be taxed at a top rate of 28 percent. That part of their income would be taxed at an even lower top rate — 25 percent — under Trump’s plan.

In other words, the so-called carried interest loophole that Trump has talked so much about repealing is not going to offset revenue losses much at all.

And because Trump would cut the pass-through business income rate by more than half, to 15 percent, it is that much harder for economic growth to make up for lost revenue, Cole said.

Williams, the Sol Price fellow at the Tax Policy Center, agrees the Trump plan could not be revenue neutral, as touted.

“On the face of it, it is a tax plan that is going to lose money [revenue to the Treasury],” he said.”The bottom line is that if you are going to do it by eliminating tax preferences, there aren’t enough preferences to make up for it.”

Take this example, Williams said: If someone makes $1.5 million in income, they are taxed at 39.6 percent on that last million. Cutting the rate to 25 percent means about $150,000 less in revenue to the Treasury. That person would have to earn $600,000 more per year to make up that lost revenue.

“There’s a lot of money disappearing,” Williams said. “There isn’t that much in tax breaks that he could take away.” Since Trump has said he would leave mortgage interest and charitable contributions alone, “we’re pretty much down to state and local tax deductions,” Williams said. There’s not enough there, he said, to boost your taxable income enough to offset the losses in tax revenue.

As a result, Williams said, it would require “substantial budget cuts” to make up for lost revenues.

Budget Cuts
Trump said during his press conference and in the Wall Street Journal op-ed that he would cut spending. But Trump was short on details about how he would make such cuts, promising “disciplined budget management and elimination of waste, fraud and abuse” to achieve a balanced budget with the new tax plan.

Trump claimed there’s so much waste in the federal budget, he could make the necessary cuts without actually “losing anything” by way of services.

Trump referred specifically to “a 19-cent washer and it cost $900-and-some-odd thousand to send it from here to there.” It’s true that a South Carolina parts supplier fraudulently collected $998,798 from the Pentagon for sending two 19-cent washers to an Army base in Texas. The company and one of its owners were convicted of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and conspiracy to launder money.

Trump also cited the example of “hammers that cost $800 that you can buy in a store for a tiny amount of money” — a reference to a scandal over Pentagon spending on hammers in the early 1980s — and “a million dollars” spent on a soccer field at Guantanamo Bay (it was actually $744,000).

“We will run this country properly,” Trump said in his news conference. “There is so much money to be saved. We are reducing taxes, but at the same time if I win, if I become president, we will be able to cut so much money and have a better country. We won’t be losing anything other than we will be balancing budgets and getting them where they should be.”

As we have said, tax experts say Trump’s plan isn’t revenue neutral, so the promise to balance the budget would require even more spending cuts than under the current tax system. The Congressional Budget Office projects a $426 billion budget deficit in 2015.

Of course, there is fraud, waste and errors in any large organization, especially one as large as the federal government. According to the Government Accountability Office, the federal government in fiscal year 2014 made $124.7 billion in improper payments, up from $105.8 billion in fiscal 2013. But even if such errors were eliminated that would not be enough to balance the budget, let alone make up for lost tax revenues.

We take no position on the merits of Trump’s tax plan. But Trump has failed to provide evidence that he can keep his promise to cut taxes at the level he has proposed and raise enough new revenue elsewhere to make his plan revenue neutral.

— Robert Farley