General Electile Dysfunction: an election that lasts longer than 4 days is a serious medical problem

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No I misread about YouTube views
On the west coast NBC tv tape delayed Trump for a couple hours. Clearly affecting the ratings. Since you have no idea if YouTube did the same it wasn’t worth the question.
I expected Trump to get higher ratings and he may very well have. I'm just taking whatever small victories I can.
 

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Some people are literally sucking air as they come out and take their masks off, I'm hoping it's due to a fart.

Some old dude is about to get pissed when they tell him he can't open carry or concealed carry into the poling area. He's open carrying.
You're not allowed to carry into a polling station? That strikes me as extremely odd.
 
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At the end of Trump's town hall, the NBC News YouTube channel showed 153,660 viewers were watching. ABC News's YouTube channel showed 507,445 viewers at the end of Biden's town hall.
Trump was on 5 different youtube channels affiliated with NBC. They are only using the numbers from one of them.

Add in the other 4 channels and trump is way ahead by over 100k views. I was looking at them live.

Theres no debate
 
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So the NYtimes article was true.
This is terrible.
It's less than 10% of his wealth. 10% debt compared to your total assets isnt shit.


Shit cbs owes 9 billion.

"The image below, which you can click on for greater detail, shows that CBS had debt of US$9.33b at the end of June 2019, a reduction from US$9.85b over a year. However, it does have US$216.0m in cash offsetting this, leading to net debt of about US$9.12b."

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It's less than 10% of his wealth. 10% debt compared to your total assets isnt shit.
Ignoring that isn't true (he's not worth that much).

Why did Trump take a personally secured loan if the business is so solvent? Why is it so hard to just answer who he owes the money to?


Equating his personal debt obligation to a company balance sheet shows a misunderstanding of why this is such a big deal that he didn't take the debt on the company sheets, but took it as a personally secured loan. Would you think it was normal that the CBS CEO took a personally secured loan for CBS?
 

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Russian state owned bank seems to have guaranteed some of the loan - the way a parent might be a guarantor on a car loan for a child whose credit isn't good enough on their own.

That's important because often if a guarantor pulls out of the agreement, the debtor (Trump) has to find a new one to secure the loan or risk the loans being called in and potentially mega-harm to Trump.

Long story short - The future of Trump, depends on him staying in Russia's good books.



The series of events seems to be:
  1. Yugra Bank, a very small Russian bank (106th biggest in Russia), moves $330 Million into Deutsche Bank America - source.
  2. Yugra Bank has been called "a “front” for Russian intelligence services" - source.
  3. Trump borrows $421 million, with Deutsche Bank lending most of that amount - source.
  4. VTB, a bank owned by the Russian Government, guarantees the Deutsche Bank loans. This means that VTB will pay the loan if Trump cannot/will not - source.
  5. Forensic News break the story. Forensic News
  6. Andrew Weisman, senior member of Mueller's Special Counsel team investigating Trumps Russia links, retweets the Forensic news story and states "Breaking: One more reason the Special Counsel investigation should have performed a full financial investigation of Trump. " - source.




Another point from from the Forbes article.

The debt against Trump’s Chicago tower includes the most confounding liability in his portfolio. In addition to a Deutsche Bank loan for what seems to be $45 million, there’s a loan of more than $50 million, from a creditor named Chicago Unit Acquisition LLC. Here’s where things gets confusing: Donald Trump owns Chicago Unit Acquisition LLC, so he’s lending money to himself. If one of his companies owes more than $50 million to another one of his companies, then the company lending the money should theoretically be worth more than $50 million. But Trump does not list any value for Chicago Unit Acquisition LLC on his financial disclosure report.
 
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Ignoring that isn't true (he's not worth that much).

Why did Trump take a personally secured loan if the business is so solvent? Why is it so hard to just answer who he owes the money to?


Equating his personal debt obligation to a company balance sheet shows a misunderstanding of why this is such a big deal that he didn't take the debt on the company sheets, but took it as a personally secured loan. Would you think it was normal that the CBS CEO took a personally secured loan for CBS?
No I dont think it's normal. But I also dont think its crazy for a buisness or individual to have debt. Most americans have some debt even millionaires and billionaires. It doesnt effect his ability to lead the country at all. Hes not the one doing back door deals with enegery company's and chinuuh

How much debt does TMMAC have btw?

Are we gonna get bought out by kirik and become mud names
 

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No I dont think it's normal. But I also dont think its crazy for a buisness or individual to have debt. Most americans have some debt even millionaires and billionaires. It doesnt effect his ability to lead the country at all. Hes not the one doing back door deals with enegery company's and chinuuh

How much debt does TMMAC have btw?

Are we gonna get bought out by kirik and become mud names
Let this sink in, if Trump wasn't elected President he would never get approved for the security clearance he has due to his debt, or probably any security clearance.
 
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It doesnt effect his ability to lead the country at all. Hes not the one doing back door deals with enegery company's and chinuuh