Cinema GAME OF THRONES SEASON 8 LIVE DISCUSSION THREAD

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Who will sit atop the Iron Throne when it's all over?

  • Daenerys Targaryen

  • Jon Snow

  • Cersei Lannister

  • The Night King

  • Jamie Lannister

  • Other


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La Paix

Fuck this place
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Jan 14, 2015
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I just got “Crave TV” it’s 99 bucks for a year. Buy it you cheapskate.
I decided to take this advice even though 99% of what you say is retarded.

Decent episode but that dragon joyride was lame.
 

Bozy

OOHH YOU DIDNT KNOW!?
Feb 22, 2015
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First episode was solid, but left feeling flat. It looks like episode 2 will be epic though.
 

Sheepdog

Protecting America from excessive stool loitering
Dec 1, 2015
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Ok I'll say it. The season premier wasn't great
As I said, it was written by Dan and Dave's errand boy.

Unfortunately episode 2 is written by another former errand boy, and the worst writer on the show, so we will have to suffer through it too. It's nice of them to give their little nerdy buddies jobs, but it fucks us as the audience.

Basically episodes 1 and 2 are guaranteed to be shit because they are just used as boring set ups for the battle in episode 3.

Lucky they've got the best battle director for both battle episodes, so they should still be awesome.
 

Gigi Gigi

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Apr 15, 2019
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first episode not very interesting, but ok.
56 minutes per episode? 120 minutes per episodes were announced.
ok, i'm waiting for what's next.
 

Bozy

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Feb 22, 2015
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first episode not very interesting, but ok.
56 minutes per episode? 120 minutes per episodes were announced.
ok, i'm waiting for what's next.
Episodes 1-3 are around 55-58 minutes. The last 3 are 1 hour and 20 minutes is what I read.
 
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As I said, it was written by Dan and Dave's errand boy.

Unfortunately episode 2 is written by another former errand boy, and the worst writer on the show, so we will have to suffer through it too. It's nice of them to give their little nerdy buddies jobs, but it fucks us as the audience.

Basically episodes 1 and 2 are guaranteed to be shit because they are just used as boring set ups for the battle in episode 3.

Lucky they've got the best battle director for both battle episodes, so they should still be awesome.
Well that's disappointing.

Despite it being a not-so-great episode last night, there were a few good moments:

1. Bran telling Sam he was "waiting for an old friend" and then sitting outside in a wheelchair for what seemed to be all night just so he could make eye contact with Jaime.

2. Sansa: "What do dragons eat anyway?"

Daenerys: "Whatever they want."

3. I like the realness in Sam not even trying to pretend that he didn't think Daenerys was a monster.

4. Yara's rescue scene was pretty cool.

5. The scene at Last Hearth was pretty badass. No dead bodies because that's not how the Army of the Dead rolls.

But most of the scenes weren't great. Euron banging Cersei was confusing - did she enjoy it or not? Does she even know?

Also I'm not sure what Tyrion and Varys are even doing in Winterfell as they got fuck all done last night. Tyrion is proving to be the most inept Hand eva. If not for Jaime's arrival and reveal next week Tyrion would still be waiting at the top of Winterfell's southern gates looking out for the Lannister army.

And I sure hope Jon stops giving a fuck that his father lied to him blah blah blah. He was pretty practical when it came to the 7-year-old questioning his title, let's hope he stays that way. No one cares that you're the real heir and that you banged your aunt at least twice. There's an army of dead men coming.

Jon rides dragon. Dragon lets Jon ride it. No one questions how that's even possible without Jon having dragon blood/being a Targaryen?
 

Bozy

OOHH YOU DIDNT KNOW!?
Feb 22, 2015
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Despite it being a not-so-great episode last night, there were a few good moments:
Sam learning of his father's death. And handling it well enough. Then hearing of his brothers and having to hold back the emotions was the highlight of the episode for me. Great job in that scene.
 

Dick Niaz

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Jan 14, 2018
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Jon rides dragon. Dragon lets Jon ride it. No one questions how that's even possible without Jon having dragon blood/being a Targaryen?
Yeah, Dany would have been the first person to stop a non-Targaryen from attempting to ride a dragon. She knows the rules and would have been like: "You must be this tall to ride this ride."
That was a miss on the part of the writers.
 

Sex Chicken

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Sep 8, 2015
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I don’t know what people were expecting from the first episode. The show hasn’t been on the air in almost 2 years, and got about 30 active characters/storylines.

This episode has to function almost like a recap so of course it’s going to be a bit clunky. It’s also why the writing is going to be a bit wooden. They have to use each exchange to remind the audience a) who is speaking b) what their relational dynamic is to the person they are speaking to and c) what their motivation is.
Of course they can’t shoehorn all of this in but they still have to cram in as much exposition as they can and still try to keep the dialogue as natural sounding as they can. That’s why you get a lot of lines like “Oh hello Lord So and So, I haven’t seen you since the Battle of....”

This show would be a nightmare to write and I think they did a great job.

On top of this they have to try to keep two sets of fan bases happy, The hardcores who know the books/characters who want all storylines addressed and the casuals who just don’t want to get lost in the storylines and characters. The show could easily cut bait, go Hollywood and simplify the show focussing on the Stark’s , Lancaster’s and Daenarys, but then they would alienate there fan base who want to know what becomes of all the Littefingers and other side characters.

Enjoy the show and stop looking up it’s ass with a microscope. It’s not high art but it’s entertaining as hell and they are attempting to pull of something pretty incredible.
 

La Paix

Fuck this place
First 100
Jan 14, 2015
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I don’t know what people were expecting from the first episode. The show hasn’t been on the air in almost 2 years, and got about 30 active characters/storylines.

This episode has to function almost like a recap so of course it’s going to be a bit clunky. It’s also why the writing is going to be a bit wooden. They have to use each exchange to remind the audience a) who is speaking b) what their relational dynamic is to the person they are speaking to and c) what their motivation is.
Of course they can’t shoehorn all of this in but they still have to cram in as much exposition as they can and still try to keep the dialogue as natural sounding as they can. That’s why you get a lot of lines like “Oh hello Lord So and So, I haven’t seen you since the Battle of....”

This show would be a nightmare to write and I think they did a great job.

On top of this they have to try to keep two sets of fan bases happy, The hardcores who know the books/characters who want all storylines addressed and the casuals who just don’t want to get lost in the storylines and characters. The show could easily cut bait, go Hollywood and simplify the show focussing on the Stark’s , Lancaster’s and Daenarys, but then they would alienate there fan base who want to know what becomes of all the Littefingers and other side characters.

Enjoy the show and stop looking up it’s ass with a microscope. It’s not high art but it’s entertaining as hell and they are attempting to pull of something pretty incredible.
You type this while eating Cheerios in your infant iron throne?
 

Wild

Zi Nazi
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Dec 31, 2014
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Well that's disappointing.

Despite it being a not-so-great episode last night, there were a few good moments:

1. Bran telling Sam he was "waiting for an old friend" and then sitting outside in a wheelchair for what seemed to be all night just so he could make eye contact with Jaime.

2. Sansa: "What do dragons eat anyway?"

Daenerys: "Whatever they want."

3. I like the realness in Sam not even trying to pretend that he didn't think Daenerys was a monster.

4. Yara's rescue scene was pretty cool.

5. The scene at Last Hearth was pretty badass. No dead bodies because that's not how the Army of the Dead rolls.

But most of the scenes weren't great. Euron banging Cersei was confusing - did she enjoy it or not? Does she even know?

Also I'm not sure what Tyrion and Varys are even doing in Winterfell as they got fuck all done last night. Tyrion is proving to be the most inept Hand eva. If not for Jaime's arrival and reveal next week Tyrion would still be waiting at the top of Winterfell's southern gates looking out for the Lannister army.

And I sure hope Jon stops giving a fuck that his father lied to him blah blah blah. He was pretty practical when it came to the 7-year-old questioning his title, let's hope he stays that way. No one cares that you're the real heir and that you banged your aunt at least twice. There's an army of dead men coming.

Jon rides dragon. Dragon lets Jon ride it. No one questions how that's even possible without Jon having dragon blood/being a Targaryen?
Great post man. Seriously.
 

Wild

Zi Nazi
Admin
Dec 31, 2014
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134,672
I don’t know what people were expecting from the first episode. The show hasn’t been on the air in almost 2 years, and got about 30 active characters/storylines.

This episode has to function almost like a recap so of course it’s going to be a bit clunky. It’s also why the writing is going to be a bit wooden. They have to use each exchange to remind the audience a) who is speaking b) what their relational dynamic is to the person they are speaking to and c) what their motivation is.
Of course they can’t shoehorn all of this in but they still have to cram in as much exposition as they can and still try to keep the dialogue as natural sounding as they can. That’s why you get a lot of lines like “Oh hello Lord So and So, I haven’t seen you since the Battle of....”

This show would be a nightmare to write and I think they did a great job.

On top of this they have to try to keep two sets of fan bases happy, The hardcores who know the books/characters who want all storylines addressed and the casuals who just don’t want to get lost in the storylines and characters. The show could easily cut bait, go Hollywood and simplify the show focussing on the Stark’s , Lancaster’s and Daenarys, but then they would alienate there fan base who want to know what becomes of all the Littefingers and other side characters.

Enjoy the show and stop looking up it’s ass with a microscope. It’s not high art but it’s entertaining as hell and they are attempting to pull of something pretty incredible.
Another great post.
 

Sheepdog

Protecting America from excessive stool loitering
Dec 1, 2015
8,912
14,224
Well that's disappointing.

Despite it being a not-so-great episode last night, there were a few good moments:

1. Bran telling Sam he was "waiting for an old friend" and then sitting outside in a wheelchair for what seemed to be all night just so he could make eye contact with Jaime.

2. Sansa: "What do dragons eat anyway?"

Daenerys: "Whatever they want."

3. I like the realness in Sam not even trying to pretend that he didn't think Daenerys was a monster.

4. Yara's rescue scene was pretty cool.

5. The scene at Last Hearth was pretty badass. No dead bodies because that's not how the Army of the Dead rolls.

But most of the scenes weren't great. Euron banging Cersei was confusing - did she enjoy it or not? Does she even know?

Also I'm not sure what Tyrion and Varys are even doing in Winterfell as they got fuck all done last night. Tyrion is proving to be the most inept Hand eva. If not for Jaime's arrival and reveal next week Tyrion would still be waiting at the top of Winterfell's southern gates looking out for the Lannister army.

And I sure hope Jon stops giving a fuck that his father lied to him blah blah blah. He was pretty practical when it came to the 7-year-old questioning his title, let's hope he stays that way. No one cares that you're the real heir and that you banged your aunt at least twice. There's an army of dead men coming.

Jon rides dragon. Dragon lets Jon ride it. No one questions how that's even possible without Jon having dragon blood/being a Targaryen?
My connection with this show is the same as a psycho who fantasizes about murdering his ex-girlfriend while spending every day stalking her new boyfriends on Facebook and then crying himself to sleep softly whispering "Mary" (Mary is my mother's name, to add an extra layer of fucked-up-ness to the analogy). I hate it but I watch and I look shit up about it.

I will pick one point of contention - I could pick a thousand.

The Sam-Daenerys shit is retarded on so many levels. Contrived to the point that it is ridiculous - this is all the show is now, ridiculous contrivance on top of ridiculous contrivance.

Sam's dad was a Targaryen loyalist. He betrayed his lord because a 'foreign whore' was invading, even though it was a fucking Targaryen that he fought for. Insane, unforgivable contrivance to start with.

The show made a point of this being a feudal society where even knights stealing a ham means death.

Sam's dad was literally a traitor on several levels and then a vanquished foe who refused to surrender. And his son with him. Of course they had to die.

Which brings me to your point of liking Sam not pretending to like Daenerys. Sure that's logical.

But the ridiculous part is the logic in the conversation with Jon Snow. At least the secretary writer was aware how of ridiculous it was, because they tried to explain away the insanity.

"She killed my dad because he refused to obey"

"I've killed people because they refuse to obey"

"Yes, but here's a non-sequitor - you also didn't kill people in entirely different circumstances"

"Good point"

So fucking shit. It's honestly worse writing than you will find on most soap operas.