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Another problem with culling is that when you make the culling of elephants such a lucrative business, it stops people for looking for and/or trying more humane, less traumatic alternatives.
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That's a pretty bad analogy. If wildlife experts say a limited population culling is needed to support overall breeding and population growth, it isn't at all like supporting the profiting of unneeded and unethical child abuse.
Screw whatever Trump says, i’ll take the same position as Rogan.
Lol Rogaine is a joke like Dana.
But that's not something wildlife experts agree on. There are plenty of wildlife experts who say it's a very harmful process - that is unneeded and unethical - with much better alternatives, and they have scientific studies to back them up.
For other than culling or food, no reason to shoot an elephant. What's the skill? It's not like they're hard to it or are skittish. It DOES take a special type of cunt. Same for a Giraffe. Some animals are just not an achievement, it's not really hunting any more. It's an egotistical gotta-catch-em-all Pokemon type of thing. It's nothing but an item on the list, without much passion for the animal itself.
You son of a bitch. I thought you were wise beyond your years. You’re way off on this one.
Post some of these alternatives.
I'm just saying that I fail to see that absolute sin in these two countries looking for ways to make a elephant preserve system that is financially viable to grow and also support the most important animals they are responsible for...their own citizens and a developing country.
There are a lot of challenges in providing habit and sustainable populations, along with schools, clean water, food, and a good life for their people. All while giving sustainable regulated lands for the elephants.
Nah man, banning
@Megaterio Llamas within 30 minutes is fucked.
we cull deer ,rabbits,wolves over here and no one gives a shit.it has to be done to keep a healthy population in check.the problem with elephants is they are this big dopey animal people feel sympathy for.it clouds their judgement on the topic.the same principles apply with the other animals but no one cares about culling deer herds.i personally would not shot an elephant.it seems like you can just walk up and shoot one with no real challenge.that is not real hunting.that being said if some rich idiot wants to give 150k to an elephant park to get rid of a big old elephant that was getting shot soon anyways then let him.the rangers were going to kill it anyways.might as well get some money out of it.might as well get the cash from some limp dick dentist before poachers kill the same elephant and let it rot.its not an ideal situation but it is what it is
It is not the consensus of wild life experts that the current culling method is the best option for highly social animals like the elephant. There are studies that show elephant "social understanding" has been impaired due to the loss of older adults.
I'm no expert on the subject but the creation of giant parks has been brought up for a long time. Essentially it would give elephant populations a greater migration area so they could move freely - even cross borders - so they were not the problem of one locality. It's not like land is at a premium in these African countries.
Also "chemical castration" (suppression of testosterone in bull elephants) has come up recently as a viable solution to population control. Of course that might present it's own set of problems but it's a lot more humane than culling.
But of course these solutions cost money, and searching for/trying out other solutions will cost money. They're not likely to consider these or other options because it also comes with a net cost of losing the business of these cumstain trophy hunters.
Culling is only ethical in the absence of a viable alternative IMO.
Remember the rabbit culling on Enterprise Way a while back? People lost their fucking mind because the guy (and rest of team) showed no remorse in killing them plus his methods were questioned and reported to police.That Telus building lot was riddled with those fuckers. I think he did one interview basically saying "look, there's a ton I gotta kill and it's easier during the day, deal with it...".
Gwenda Garrett, a security guard working in the city, told CBC News on Monday that while on patrol Saturday morning, she saw a man shooting a feral rabbit, then two people stomping on the animal's head.
"The bunny was flopping around on the grass and a female got out of the passenger side of the truck. She went over to where the bunny was. She stomped on it really hard four times," Garrett said
"It was still flopping around because it didn't die yet. Then the driver of the truck went over and stomped on it twice and it still didn't die. And then he crouched down and I believe I watched him break the rabbit's neck."
She reported the case to Kelowna RCMP, who are investigating to see whether there is evidence of animal cruelty.
Culling of rabbits in Kelowna sparks police probe
Different circumstances than the OP but your post reminded me of the story.
that was a perfect example of what happens when populations are not kept in check
I keep seeing that and asking for some links to read about the alternatives.
Cliffs on op and all responses?
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This one mostly in references the elephants at Kruger National park, but hits many of the major points.
http://www.bornfree.org.uk/fileadmi...et_al_2006._Ele_round_table_sajsci_102_9_.pdf
Conclusions:
1.The previously maintained ceiling of
around 7000 elephants in the KNP
should not be construed as a carrying
capacity.
2. Manipulating elephant numbers alone
may have ramifying consequences.
3. Big trees have declined in the KNP
despite past capping of elephant
numbers.
4. There is no benchmark against which
to judge an ideal vegetation state for
the KNP.
5. Claimed disaster scenarios from elsewhere
have been greatly exaggerated.
6. Plant species losses have been documented
in the Addo Elephant National
Park and are a cause for concern.
7. Concepts of a balance of nature are
outmoded.
8. Establishing a heterogeneous spatial
template is more effective than continually
counteracting change.
9. Density feedbacks must ultimately
curtail the growth in the elephant
population.
10. Further research needs to be focused
most crucially on factors governing
elephant movements and recruitment
processes in savanna woodlands.
Suggested responses:
1. Since there is no easy solution, different
measures need to be applied and
tested through adaptive management.
2. Management should be spatially differentiated,
and may involve zoning
some areas as ‘elephant sanctuaries’
and others as ‘tree sanctuaries’ with
clearly specified objectives.
3. Further research is needed to establish
how elephants distribute their effects
over space and the local conditions
allowing tree regeneration to occur.
4. Reliable models of interactive ecosystem
dynamics are required to project
when threshold conditions of irreversibility
are being approached.
5. Interventions may be needed to counteract
likely lags in the elephant–woodland
interaction, but with the need for
action lessening as the size of the
protected area gets larger.
6. It would be more effective, less costly
and less contentious to establish a
spatial template in order to restrict the
extent of severe elephant impacts on
vegetation, than continually to cull
elephants.
7. Socio-political issues seem of more
immediate concern than ecological
ones, at least in the KNP.
8. The case for active intervention is
stronger in smaller reserves, but other
measures could reduce the need for
culling.
9. Management interventions need to be
backed by sufficiently informative
monitoring of the consequences.
Effects of social disruption in elephants persist decades after culling.
Effects of social disruption in elephants persist decades after culling
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@IGotAHugePeckah has come out as a bleeding heart liberal 
@Splinty wish he could've killed more precious animals before he left Africa.