General Jerusalem = New Israeli Capital

[Gay For Longo]

Umm.

What is the source for your quote?

 

[Yossarian]

who exactly do you think controlled Hitler, then?

Methamphetamines.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

What is the source for your quote?

Zionism - Wikipedia

 

[jason73]

This will sound very callous but "meh".

I get that Israel treats Palestinians pretty badly but they make it hard to have sympathy for them.

This is pretty much where i am at with this too

 

[Gay For Longo]

Even by your generous definition it still runs counter to anything that the Nazis ever did.

Ever did?
Did you miss the early part of this thread where we had a discussion of an agreement the Nazis made to move 50,000 jews to Palestine?
Without the Nazis, would Israel be a nation the way it is today?


I'm not saying that I'm 100% right, it's a belief, but your statement is factually incorrect

 

[Truck Party]

Methamphetamines.

winner

 

[Gay For Longo]

Methamphetamines.

#TRUTH

 

[Truck Party]

Ever did?
Did you miss the early part of this thread where we had a discussion of an agreement the Nazis made to move 50,000 jews to Palestine?
Without the Nazis, would Israel be a nation the way it is today?


I'm not saying that I'm 100% right, it's a belief, but your statement is factually incorrect

What's your main issue with Isreal being an independent country, you seem to have one

 

[Gay For Longo]

Zionism - Wikipedia

Thanks
It was started by a sect of Jewish people, not all jews are Zionists
Actually some Zionists are not even Jewish

It did originate with a section of Jewish people though
There is some study that this is not true but I don't even know if I'd be able to find the research papers I was reading years ago when I was deep diving into this shit

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Ever did? /QUOTE]

Yes. If your goal was to get Jews out of your country. Shipping them off to somewhere they're hated is a solid move.

Did you miss the early part of this thread where we had a discussion of an agreement the Nazis made to move 50,000 jews to Palestine?

No, see above.

Without the Nazis, would Israel be a nation the way it is today?

Chicken or egg argument. If Woodrow Wilson weren't such a complete fucking asshole WW 1 woudl have turned out completely differently. That's not even getting into Rasputin, Lenin and the others who were the ultimate cause of the German power vacuum. WW2 ended, and the UN formed and created Israel. What's ironic is that UN now heavily criticizes Israel and is effectively run by the Germans.

 

[Gay For Longo]

What's your main issue with Isreal being an independent country, you seem to have one

The belief that that land is theirs over all others even though that land was already occupied

If as @Lars said they go to an uninhabited island and setup shop, I wouldn't have a problem with that part of it

 

[Pitbull9]

You asked who they were, I can't say who leads it, I could name people I think are connected but they would simply be my guesses

What they are?
Zionist, that was simple

What did they want?
A Zionist state/nation

And before any anti-Semitism bs starts, there is a different between a Jewish person and a Zionist

Please explain as I would like to know what I am.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

It was started by a sect of Jewish people, not all jews are Zionists
Actually some Zionists are not even Jewish

Oh, I know you can be Zionist without being a Jew, but it's still predicated on the idea of creating and protecting a Jewish state. Not something Hitler was terribly interested in.

 

[Gay For Longo]

Man why didn't your quote come up here for me to write, damn

Shipping them off to where they want to be
FTFY

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Shipping them off to where they want to be

You ever talk to someone who was sent there during or after WW2?

 

[Gay For Longo]

Oh, I know you can be Zionist without being a Jew, but it's still predicated on the idea of creating and protecting a Jewish state. Not something Hitler was terribly interested in.

You forgot the "in the holy land" part which is kind of crucial

Did you know Hitler personally or are you assuming his intentions?

Look into who signed the deal to send them over to Palestine and the connections

 

[Gay For Longo]

Please explain as I would like to know what I am.

What do you mean?

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Did you know Hitler personally or are you assuming his intentions?

Well, he did write a book about his intentions.

 

[Gay For Longo]

You ever talk to someone who was sent there during or after
I have family who were in the holocaust
None that were sent to Palestine

I do know it was tough as fuck though

 

[Gay For Longo]

Well, he did write a book about his intentions.

A tip of the cap sir

Well played

 

[Pitbull9]

What do you mean?

I'm trying to figure out which type of Jew I am so I want to hear what the difference is.

I understand those that may not like this but for those who just don't like Jews I would prefer they just come right out and say that and than say I don't approve it will make more sense.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

I'll put it this way @Gay for Longo

Nobody wants to be rounded up like cattle and sent to a strange land. Even if it is the "promised land"

(you seem to be having issues with the quote feature)

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

A tip of the cap sir

Well played

I wanted to take a minute to say that I appreciate that you're able to have a conversation with someone who disagrees with you and still be civil.

 

[Gay For Longo]

I'm trying to figure out which type of Jew I am so I want to hear what the difference is.

I understand those that may not like this but for those who just don't like Jews I would prefer they just come right out and say that and than say I don't approve it will make more sense.

Hmm which type of jew you are?

Do you support the belief that the zionist people have the right to "The holy land" over all others?

If not, probably not a Zionist

Are you religious Would be the next question if you want to know if you are a religious Jewish person

 

[Gay For Longo]

I'll put it this way @Gay for Longo

Nobody wants to be rounded up like cattle and sent to a strange land. Even if it is the "promised land"

(you seem to be having issues with the quote feature)

I am, dont know what's going on

I agree nobody likes being rounded up and sent to a new place

Thought just came to me as I was writing this
Why would the people who want this nation care if the people going there initially are mistreated?
Wouldn't that just lead to a natural hate over the people mistreating them which would further fuel their goal to expand and take over the rest of "the holy land"

Maybe I need to take a break from the dabs for a minute lol