Jose Aldo Vs Conor Mcgregor...Who you got? Poll time
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the hype is more than real. Conor will take the belt.
It's awesome promoting for the fight. I honestly think (hope) Aldo will keep his belt and beat the shit out of Mcgregor. I for one am tired of all this Irish hype. I know Mcgregor is a big draw but damn it is getting annoying.. Atleast to me!!! Hope Aldo shuts him up!!
I know the UFC is pulling for a Mcgregor victory.. Hope it doesn't happen
I know the UFC is pulling for a Mcgregor victory.. Hope it doesn't happen
I picked Aldo, I can't stand Conor but will admit his record isn't as padded as I presumed earlier
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smart man right here
I think we will see the most aggressive version of Aldo in this fight.
Weird how McGregor says "I saw fear in his eyes", and it becomes true in (a lot of) people's minds.
I haven't seen any fear. I've seen amusement and anger.
The question I think is whether or not the anger will be taken into the Octagon via the Harley Davidson "prep point".
If it is - that's going to go in McGregors favour.
I can't see past Aldo, but it's going to be a spectacle and I wouldn't be surprised if Conor won.
I haven't seen any fear. I've seen amusement and anger.
The question I think is whether or not the anger will be taken into the Octagon via the Harley Davidson "prep point".
If it is - that's going to go in McGregors favour.
I can't see past Aldo, but it's going to be a spectacle and I wouldn't be surprised if Conor won.
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I really hope so... Aldo has gone through all of his apponents without any problems... Hope he does the same with mcgregor an ends all this nonsense..
I just hope it doesn't end in any kind of controversial decision.
I think Aldo will expose the dana hype train. Conor has been on a tear thur the UFC's Elite? Nah he has beaten easy set up matches spoon fed to him. Aldo has faced every challenger and came out on top. Aldo will Duffy McGregor in the 2nd or 3rd.
Ouch. That's terrifying to think about. I was definitely worried when Siver hit that leg kick on McGregor and he fell down for a moment. Jose Aldo could devastate that way, but it really just depends on the directional pressure of the fight and movement. McGregor's movement better be spot on otherwise he won't nullify those leg kicks.
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Lets look at someways Conor is going to have trouble with Aldo without a game redefined:
Conor is a southpaw aggressive long puncher. His ability to fight long is amazing, but he also fought a bunch of guys that back up for him.
Aldo is a... THE counter puncher with kicks like no other.
Founds some conor gifs online:
Kick, wheel kick, counter left. THAT left is the moneymaker. The rest of that is shit that didn't/doesn't land on lesser guys and it won't land on Aldo.
In that exchange there's two times Aldo would have a changed to counter before the left
View: http://gfycat.com/AngryPossibleEkaltadeta
Conor likes that long stance and paws to get a slick left straight or cross in between the defenses. He does it effortlessly and if you back up, hes gonna land it.
Aldo will have to setup a better counter than a telegraphed overhand right
View: https://gfycat.com/UltimateCourteousCoqui
Kick, paw, paw, easy left, knee, still looking for that left...lands it on the counter...
View: https://gfycat.com/ImperturbableAbleCarpenterant
Conor stance is wide
Lets him transition in and out very effectively to be a long fighter
Conor checks inside kicks like a champ... But Aldo knows other kicks:
View: https://gfycat.com/TightCommonChrysalis
That outside leg kick is going to land. And that is going to tell the story.
Conor wins if and only if: He finds a home for that left early enough to shake up Aldo. Drops the spinning shit. Figures out what to do with outside leg kicks while maintaining the long stance that makes him so effective.
Conor is a southpaw aggressive long puncher. His ability to fight long is amazing, but he also fought a bunch of guys that back up for him.
Aldo is a... THE counter puncher with kicks like no other.
Founds some conor gifs online:
Kick, wheel kick, counter left. THAT left is the moneymaker. The rest of that is shit that didn't/doesn't land on lesser guys and it won't land on Aldo.
In that exchange there's two times Aldo would have a changed to counter before the left
View: http://gfycat.com/AngryPossibleEkaltadeta
Conor likes that long stance and paws to get a slick left straight or cross in between the defenses. He does it effortlessly and if you back up, hes gonna land it.
Aldo will have to setup a better counter than a telegraphed overhand right
View: https://gfycat.com/UltimateCourteousCoqui
Kick, paw, paw, easy left, knee, still looking for that left...lands it on the counter...
View: https://gfycat.com/ImperturbableAbleCarpenterant
Conor stance is wide
Lets him transition in and out very effectively to be a long fighter
Conor checks inside kicks like a champ... But Aldo knows other kicks:
View: https://gfycat.com/TightCommonChrysalis
That outside leg kick is going to land. And that is going to tell the story.
Conor wins if and only if: He finds a home for that left early enough to shake up Aldo. Drops the spinning shit. Figures out what to do with outside leg kicks while maintaining the long stance that makes him so effective.
The first gif has Conor landing a jumping turning kick to the liver and going straight into a spinning heel kick. A pretty good combo, since if you circle away from his left after the jumping kick, you've moved into the spinning heel kick. Diego doesn't circle, but moves back out of range and isn't in a position to counter, but the beautiful part of that kick is how Conor is completely balanced and back into position to counter anything that is thrown at him. If you have trained that kick, you'll know it is no small feat to be that perfectly in balance after throwing it.Lets look at someways Conor is going to have trouble with Aldo without a game redefined:
Conor is a southpaw aggressive long puncher. His ability to fight long is amazing, but he also fought a bunch of guys that back up for him.
Aldo is a... THE counter puncher with kicks like no other.
Founds some conor gifs online:
Kick, wheel kick, counter left. THAT left is the moneymaker. The rest of that is shit that didn't/doesn't land on lesser guys and it won't land on Aldo.
In that exchange there's two times Aldo would have a changed to counter before the left
View: http://gfycat.com/AngryPossibleEkaltadeta
Conor likes that long stance and paws to get a slick left straight or cross in between the defenses. He does it effortlessly and if you back up, hes gonna land it.
Aldo will have to setup a better counter than a telegraphed overhand right
View: https://gfycat.com/UltimateCourteousCoqui
Kick, paw, paw, easy left, knee, still looking for that left...lands it on the counter...
View: https://gfycat.com/ImperturbableAbleCarpenterant
Conor stance is wide
Lets him transition in and out very effectively to be a long fighter
Conor checks inside kicks like a champ... But Aldo knows other kicks:
View: https://gfycat.com/TightCommonChrysalis
That outside leg kick is going to land. And that is going to tell the story.
Conor wins if and only if: He finds a home for that left early enough to shake up Aldo. Drops the spinning shit. Figures out what to do with outside leg kicks while maintaining the long stance that makes him so effective.
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Edson Barboza throws one of the best spinning heel kicks in the game, but look at how long and how many steps it takes for him to be back into position to strike again. It gives you an idea of how smooth and fluid Conor's technique is.
Next up you have a gif of Conor pawing and controlling the lead hand of a southpaw. The hand fight is a big thing between southpaws and whoever wins it is at a major advantage in the fight, but it comes about mainly in southpaw vs southpaw match ups because the lead hands are so close. Controlling that lead hand stops the jab, allow you to strike over it when you slap it down and help to gauge range. This won't be as prevalent against Aldo though, because he is an Orthodox fighter. Of course hand trapping does happen, but it is a different dynamic.
You're right Aldo knows other kicks, but the gif you've used is against an orthodox Hominick. That right leg kick will have twice as far to go, since it will need to hit the back leg, or have the possibility it will be checked. Personally, I think he would have his most success with leg kicks if he targets the back leg and kicks when breaking from the clinch.
Damn, I'm excited for this fight.
This is how I see it. A standup war for a couple of rounds, with Aldo mixing in clinch work whenever he can. He gets Connor down at some point and just dominates from then on.
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Aldo by Sub Rnd 1.
he rocks the flavour of the month and sends him packing by RNC.
he rocks the flavour of the month and sends him packing by RNC.
Aldo is leading the voting 3 to 1. Not sure I understand?
A couple basic points out-front:
(1) It's completely pointless to dive into the "who is in who's head" discussion. The truth is we don't know. He's what we do know:
(2) McGregor is a legitimate challenger who beat the crap out of two top 15 guys (Porier and Siver) and a guy on the periphery (Brandao).
With those being said, I think this is a really interesting stylistic clash. While we've seen Aldo fight excellent strikers in Mendes and Frankie, we've never seen him fight as pure a striker as Conor. On the other hand, unlike when he fought Faber, Mendes, and Frankie, Aldo won't need to fear the takedowns at all.
I'm pretty sure Aldo can take Conor down. If he does, my guess is he'll beat McGregor senseless there. If he doesn't, it gets really interesting. While McGregor throws lots of flashy moves, his bread and butter is incredibly technical boxing. Whose boxing is better? I can't wait to find out.
Bottom Line: I think most educated fight fans agree on the following: (1) Aldo is better than Mendes and probably better than Frankie; (2) Knowing what we know now, we'd be more confident betting on Frankie and Mendes over Conor than Aldo. That's simply because the wrestler v. striker/striker v. striker dynamics.
Those things considered, Jose Aldo is the only champion the UFC has ever had. He is a destroyer of worlds. He has beaten Mendes, TKZ, Florian, Faber, Brown, and Frankie Edgar. His resume is arguably as impressive as GSP's. And his last fight indicates he is still in the prime of his career. We have a lot of interesting questions and McGregor could very well win this fight. But until he does, Jose Aldo is the king and we have no reason to bet against him holding onto the throne.
(1) It's completely pointless to dive into the "who is in who's head" discussion. The truth is we don't know. He's what we do know:
- We have no indication based on his rapid rise in the UFC that Conor McGregor is mentally inconsistent. We should expect him to come out at 100%.
- Jose Aldo is the only FW champion the UFC has ever had. Aside from the Frankie fight, there has never been a fight in which he wasn't the clear victor. He is a top-5 all-time fighter. One bad weight cut (Hominick) and a broken foot (TKZ) aside, he has never been anything but consistently excellent. It's important to note that he finished TKZ and beat the crap out of Hominick for 4 rounds - and those are the fights I cited as not examples of consistent excellent.
(2) McGregor is a legitimate challenger who beat the crap out of two top 15 guys (Porier and Siver) and a guy on the periphery (Brandao).
With those being said, I think this is a really interesting stylistic clash. While we've seen Aldo fight excellent strikers in Mendes and Frankie, we've never seen him fight as pure a striker as Conor. On the other hand, unlike when he fought Faber, Mendes, and Frankie, Aldo won't need to fear the takedowns at all.
I'm pretty sure Aldo can take Conor down. If he does, my guess is he'll beat McGregor senseless there. If he doesn't, it gets really interesting. While McGregor throws lots of flashy moves, his bread and butter is incredibly technical boxing. Whose boxing is better? I can't wait to find out.
Bottom Line: I think most educated fight fans agree on the following: (1) Aldo is better than Mendes and probably better than Frankie; (2) Knowing what we know now, we'd be more confident betting on Frankie and Mendes over Conor than Aldo. That's simply because the wrestler v. striker/striker v. striker dynamics.
Those things considered, Jose Aldo is the only champion the UFC has ever had. He is a destroyer of worlds. He has beaten Mendes, TKZ, Florian, Faber, Brown, and Frankie Edgar. His resume is arguably as impressive as GSP's. And his last fight indicates he is still in the prime of his career. We have a lot of interesting questions and McGregor could very well win this fight. But until he does, Jose Aldo is the king and we have no reason to bet against him holding onto the throne.
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conor is not an contender, he is ranked no 5 and beat the no 12 to get a shot frogleaping no 1-4