Society LA is on fire

MountainMedic said:
I will die angry at PG&E for what they did to the Feather River and it's salmon.
Cheaper to pay fines than build ladders.

Cocknocking sumbitches.
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Well those same fish requirements that the state follows cost the citizens of CA >900mw of electric generation during the energy crisis a couple years ago. When Lake Oroville is full, the original commitment to CA is 3-5yrs of water supply. That was gone in about a year due to having to dump water for fish hatchery temperature control. By the time the energy crisis started, the lake was so low the generators couldn't even start.
 
rmenergy said:
Well those same fish requirements that the state follows cost the citizens of CA >900mw of electric generation during the energy crisis a couple years ago. When Lake Oroville is full, the original commitment to CA is 3-5yrs of water supply. That was gone in about a year due to having to dump water for fish hatchery temperature control. By the time the energy crisis started, the lake was so low the generators couldn't even start.
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Don't care, to be honest.
PG&E we're allowed to game the game and the Sierras deserve their salmon.
It was a bullshit deal that gave fuel to ecoterrorists for generations to come.
Compromises need to be made for society vs environment, but that wasn't one that made any sense to anyone but bean counters.

There is no argument to be made that will change my opinion.

A renewable harvest was destroyed.
Its a case study in fucking shit up.
 
MountainMedic said:
There is no argument to be made that will change my opinion.
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MountainMedic said:
Don't care, to be honest.
PG&E we're allowed to game the game and the Sierras deserve their salmon.
It was a bullshit deal that gave fuel to ecoterrorists for generations to come.
Compromises need to be made for society vs environment, but that wasn't one that made any sense to anyone but bean counters.

There is no argument to be made that will change my opinion.

A renewable harvest was destroyed.
Its a case study in fucking shit up.
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I completely understand the compromise between society & environment. I’m in the same camp.

Where along the Feather did they stop the run? Almanor? Their other stations are very unintrusive to the river.

Unrelated side note is that the Oroville Dam was designed to be able to survive the entire contents of a failure at Almanor. Oroville might, likely, will go over the emergency spillway but the dam will survive & hold Lake Oroville
 
kvr28 said:
If the house was appraised at 4.5 then price of the land has no bearing on it.
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Being under-insured is pretty common.
Just because people have a home worth 4.5 doesn't mean their coverage is 4.5

The coverage is whatever you set it up for.

Not saying insurance folks aren't snakes, but there's no way in hell they are going to pay out 4.5 if your policy only covers $800k.

It's good practice to keep your insurance up to date with the market, and also have coverage for belongings you'd want replaced in a full loss event.
 
kvr28 said:
If the house was appraised at 4.5 then price of the land has no bearing on it.
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Didn't watch the video... If the structure was appraised at 4.5 million sure but an appraisal is for structure + land.. It is broken down usually and has a value for each.. Is the 4.5 million for the structure itself?
 
Another thing to look at is the housing market is rarely 1:1 on replacement value.

Lower the numbers. You might be living in a home appraised at $250k. So you might think that coverage of $250k is sufficient - but if your inention is to rebuild, it's very possible that current materials and labor costs could push you to $500k.

Again - you're underinsured.
 
MountainMedic said:
There are simply too many people flushing too many toilets for SoCal to be viable and still grow food in the valley.
That valley, that used to feed a nation via stoop labor, has sunk over a foot as the aquafir became devastated.

Its just too many fucking people.
"Turning on the water" just robs Peter to pay Paul.
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This, I don't see how the whole southwest is sustainable long term
 
Rambo John J said:
Anything north of that watershed goes to the Pacific thru smaller rivers or drains into the Columbia River which takes most of the PNW water.
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It's incredible how much fresh water goes into the Pacific. The Columbia is such a beast. Contrast with the Colorado, granted a much smaller river, not a drop reaches the ocean. It's all sucked off and used
 
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