MayMac Punch Stats - BEFORE Conor Gassed

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if Conor had decent cardio Floyd would've had a different gameplan. he was barely thowing punches in the first three rounds just walking forward with both gloves up which was completely unusual for him. Conor had a free pass for punching and these stats are telling me he landed all of nine punches in those rounds.
 
I don't know how many Conor "haters" there are, perhaps many more haters of the freakshow aspect the UFC has demonized competitors for but hypocritically have used since it's inception.
There's no magic to this.
Conor has great hands and skill, but wasn't going to win this fight, ever/

For the sake of argument, it's worth mentioning that essentially this fight was over after the second round, when Conor realized what he was facing, and looked up at the clock just 30 seconds into the 3rd round.

There are infinitely more interesting combat topics to now take interest in.
Conor isn't a legitimate "2-belt champion", as he never walked through the ranks OR defended, he ran for money and no one can fault him for that.
He's not the greatest anything, he just is what he is, super Ronda.
Good on him, but good Lord let's move on.
 
drtheglob said:
What do you mean? 93-72 is quite close. Conor had 77% as many power punches as Floyd by this count.
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Because it's an awful data set. The first round is an obvious outlier and rounds 2 and 3 are so close as to be negligible. Why exclude the last two rounds, which were of course definitive? To say he gassed and didn't just have accumulated damage is hard to prove. Also, the power shots are only a portion of the story in a boxing match. This is a prime example of lies, damned lies and statistics to try to spin a face saving narrative, particularly in light of a TKO.

Here's the complete dataset.

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Kneeblock said:
Because it's an awful data set. The first round is an obvious outlier and rounds 2 and 3 are so close as to be negligible. Why exclude the last two rounds, which were of course definitive? Also, the power shots are only a portion of the story in a boxing match. This is a prime example of lies, damned lies and statistics to try to spin a face saving narrative, particularly in light of a TKO.

Here's the complete dataset.

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The last two rounds are excluded because Conor gassed in those rounds. It's not like I'm saying Conor should have won or something, I'm just putting the fight in another perspective.

Also, you're acting smugly, but I don't see how you've poked holes in any of my data! You say that two of the rounds were so close that Conor's lead is negligible. That might be a good argument if I were suggesting that Conor kicked ass, but all I'm saying is that it was CLOSE, not that Conor had a huge lead in some rounds.

Furthermore, I understand that CompuBox numbers don't tell the whole story, but that doesn't mean they are meaningless. These numbers coincide with the observation by many that Conor won 3 or 4 of the rounds.
 
drtheglob said:
The last two rounds are excluded because Conor gassed in those rounds. It's not like I'm saying Conor should have won or something, I'm just putting the fight in another perspective.

Also, you're acting smugly, but I don't see how you've poked holes in any of my data! You say that two of the rounds were so close that Conor's lead is negligible. That might be a good argument if I were suggesting that Conor kicked ass, but all I'm saying is that it was CLOSE, not that Conor had a huge lead in some rounds.

Furthermore, I understand that CompuBox numbers don't tell the whole story, but that doesn't mean they are meaningless. These numbers coincide with the observation by many that Conor won 3 or 4 of the rounds.
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There's nothing smug about calling a spade a spade. The complete compubox numbers do tell a pretty compelling story, just not one that indicates Conor did very well. According to the scoring of the contest, Conor undeniably won at least 3 rounds, but even at an incredibly low output in those rounds, Floyd still managed to land as much or more except in round 1 which he took off completely. If it was indeed a cardio issue and not damage accumulation that did Conor in, the high miss rate counts as a much more significant stat than the power shots.

Conor deserves credit for trying and lasting, but managing a close fight is an overstatement.
 
Wild said:
Floyd conserved energy, let Conor shoot his wad, and then closed the deal like a boss. Props to Conor for taking the fight, promoting the shit out of the fight, convincing a ton of marks that he had a shot, and representing himself well.
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This.
 
Conor was up 4-0 when his gas tank started to falter.

It's something he needs to work on obviously, but it's understandable when he's only been forced to go longer than 12 minutes in 3/24 MMA fights.

In a real fight with 4 oz. gloves, Floyd would be asleep inside two rounds. No excuses though, Floyd was better at a circus rules fight.
 
59 power shots absorbed in the last 4 minutes.

Conor never stood a chance from the get go, but even when he turned into a human punch bag, it took a lot of shots to get him out of there.

Too tough for his own good.
 
To be fair though, Floyd fought completely out of character the entire fight.

It'd be like Conor going after half assed takedowns and playing with Floyd on the ground or just disdainfully throwing lazy kicks.

We know what Floyd looks like when he takes his opponent seriously, same goes for Conor.

WHen they're both on, few can hang with them in their respective sports.
 
AcidRain said:
To be fair though, Floyd fought completely out of character the entire fight.

It'd be like Conor going after half assed takedowns and playing with Floyd on the ground or just disdainfully throwing lazy kicks.

We know what Floyd looks like when he takes his opponent seriously, same goes for Conor.

WHen they're both on, few can hang with them in their respective sports.
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Floyd didn't fight like he normally does, he didn't have to, but in the early rounds he was missing shots and looked off his game in general.

Despite the fact that he won handily and took no damage in the process he looked rusty in there, lay off and age catching up to him.
 
Suicidalforlife said:
Floyd didn't fight like he normally does, he didn't have to, but in the early rounds he was missing shots and looked off his game in general.

Despite the fact that he won handily and took no damage in the process he looked rusty in there, lay off and age catching up to him.
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He probably didn't take the fight as seriously, so he didn't train as hard as he's done his entire career.

Still, a 40 year old Floyd, most likely without a serious training camp fighting more "Mexican style" as McGregor put it managed to put Conor away.

I don't take much away from this fight other than, McGregor didn't really look that impressive, he landed shots, it seemed competitive, but we have to be realistic, Floyd could have taken him out earlier than that and he didn't fight at his best.

30 year old Floyd would have made McGregor look silly.

But, Floyd wouldn't stand a chance in MMA either so... we're back to the same thing, Boxers are better at Boxing, MMA fighters are better at MMA, both sports deserve respect.
 
Floyd came out and thought he could get to work on Conor quickly but got hit a few times and realised he would have to drag the fight out.

He had nothing for Conor when they were fresh. Fact.

If Floyd is that much better of a boxer then why did he have to give away rounds against a guy making his debut?
 
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