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NotBanjaxo

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Apparently doing all the right things on the field...off the field however...

I can't remember who it was on here that advocated for all these multi millionaire football stars to hire a personal chauffeur, but it would surely be a good investment. No DUIs, no speeding tickets, and they look like a baller being driven around to boot.
 

danggook

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Henry Ruggs III is interested in a reunion with the Las Vegas Raiders:

"Why would I not? I don’t feel like I ended on the terms that are meaningful to me and my core values. I would love to play again, and what better place to do it than where I started? Not to mention, I was the first-ever pick in Las Vegas.”

Ruggs has been training in prison and would ‘love’ an opportunity to resume his NFL career.

Via Las Vegas Review-Journal reporter Vinny Bonsignore.


Calling it right now, he will be either a chief or a cowboy, and they will get him cheap
 

NotBanjaxo

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Henry Ruggs III is interested in a reunion with the Las Vegas Raiders:

"Why would I not? I don’t feel like I ended on the terms that are meaningful to me and my core values. I would love to play again, and what better place to do it than where I started? Not to mention, I was the first-ever pick in Las Vegas.”

Ruggs has been training in prison and would ‘love’ an opportunity to resume his NFL career.

Via Las Vegas Review-Journal reporter Vinny Bonsignore.


Calling it right now, he will be either a chief or a cowboy, and they will get him cheap
I read about the crash and his conviction. Some excerpts:

Hours before the incident, Ruggs and his girlfriend, Kiara Kilgo-Washington, were seen drinking at a Topgolf location on the Las Vegas Strip in Paradise. They left after midnight in his Chevrolet Corvette. Police produced digital evidence shortly thereafter showing that, at approximately 3:39 a.m., driving 156 miles per hour (251 km/h), Ruggs slammed into the Toyota RAV4 driven by Tintor. The Clark County Coroner determined that Tintor and her dog burned to death as her vehicle was engulfed in flames following the collision.

...

Police reports showed that Ruggs had refused to take a field sobriety test, and his blood test, taken two hours following the crash, revealed a blood alcohol content of 0.161%, more than twice the legal limit in Nevada.

...

Ruggs' defense attorney, David Chesnoff, argued that Ruggs was unable to submit to a field sobriety test because of the injuries he sustained in the accident, and claimed that the blood test should not be admissible as evidence since the police did not have probable cause to obtain a blood test. Justice of the Peace Ann Zimmerman rejected Chesnoff's arguments and ruled the blood test admissible as evidence in the case.

...

On May 10, 2023, as part of a plea agreement, Ruggs pleaded guilty to one count of felony DUI resulting in death and one count of misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter. Prosecutors said they reached a plea deal due to concerns the blood draw would be thrown out, and with it the only evidence to support the felony DUI charge. They were not willing to chance Ruggs only facing charges of reckless driving, which could have only resulted in probation.



Er, WHAT???

Police had witnesses that he had been drinking, and video of him driving at 156mph and crashing not long afterwards, but there's some doubt as to whether they had probable cause to do a blood test? What kind of bullshit is that?

So they give him a plea deal based on thae chance that the blood test would somehow be ruled inadmissable, and because they were worried that he would only get probation for reckless driving.

Probation??? For driving at 156mph and crasing into another car, killing the driver and her dog? That's considered an appropriate sentence? Holy shit, where I live if you kill someone driving at 150+mph, you're getting a manslaughter charge for sure. Plus the fact that refusing a breathalyser test at the scene is counted as failing it, and they can take blood for a test after any incident involving driving a car.

Are the laws that lenient all across the USA, or is it just the state where this happened?

Are US courts usually so lenient when it comes to this kind of thing?
 

danggook

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I read about the crash and his conviction. Some excerpts:

Hours before the incident, Ruggs and his girlfriend, Kiara Kilgo-Washington, were seen drinking at a Topgolf location on the Las Vegas Strip in Paradise. They left after midnight in his Chevrolet Corvette. Police produced digital evidence shortly thereafter showing that, at approximately 3:39 a.m., driving 156 miles per hour (251 km/h), Ruggs slammed into the Toyota RAV4 driven by Tintor. The Clark County Coroner determined that Tintor and her dog burned to death as her vehicle was engulfed in flames following the collision.

...

Police reports showed that Ruggs had refused to take a field sobriety test, and his blood test, taken two hours following the crash, revealed a blood alcohol content of 0.161%, more than twice the legal limit in Nevada.

...

Ruggs' defense attorney, David Chesnoff, argued that Ruggs was unable to submit to a field sobriety test because of the injuries he sustained in the accident, and claimed that the blood test should not be admissible as evidence since the police did not have probable cause to obtain a blood test. Justice of the Peace Ann Zimmerman rejected Chesnoff's arguments and ruled the blood test admissible as evidence in the case.

...

On May 10, 2023, as part of a plea agreement, Ruggs pleaded guilty to one count of felony DUI resulting in death and one count of misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter. Prosecutors said they reached a plea deal due to concerns the blood draw would be thrown out, and with it the only evidence to support the felony DUI charge. They were not willing to chance Ruggs only facing charges of reckless driving, which could have only resulted in probation.



Er, WHAT???

Police had witnesses that he had been drinking, and video of him driving at 156mph and crashing not long afterwards, but there's some doubt as to whether they had probable cause to do a blood test? What kind of bullshit is that?

So they give him a plea deal based on thae chance that the blood test would somehow be ruled inadmissable, and because they were worried that he would only get probation for reckless driving.

Probation??? For driving at 156mph and crasing into another car, killing the driver and her dog? That's considered an appropriate sentence? Holy shit, where I live if you kill someone driving at 150+mph, you're getting a manslaughter charge for sure. Plus the fact that refusing a breathalyser test at the scene is counted as failing it, and they can take blood for a test after any incident involving driving a car.

Are the laws that lenient all across the USA, or is it just the state where this happened?

Are US courts usually so lenient when it comes to this kind of thing?
It's not that they are lenient it's the lawyers that come up with all these bullshit reasons why a blood test is inadmissable. Fucking technicalities, that motherfucker should've been strung up for this, not close to getting released. Hope that mf violates his parole and gets thrown back in the clink.

I get that everybody deserves a legal defense, but some of these attorneys really piss me off. I have a buddy who is an attorney that is always bragging about the acquittals he gets, of very vile, filthy human beings that do all sorts of fucked up shit. To anyone with an iota of common sense there's no question of their guilt but they get off based on a technicality or some police fuckup where they fucked up procedure, mishandled evidence or obtained evidence through non legal means. Bragging about getting shitstains of society off scott free just because they believe in 'fuck the police' and 'fuck the system' without a care for the innocent law abiding citizens that get fucked over by these vermin.
 

NotBanjaxo

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It's not that they are lenient it's the lawyers that come up with all these bullshit reasons why a blood test is inadmissable. Fucking technicalities, that motherfucker should've been strung up for this, not close to getting released. Hope that mf violates his parole and gets thrown back in the clink.

I get that everybody deserves a legal defense, but some of these attorneys really piss me off. I have a buddy who is an attorney that is always bragging about the acquittals he gets, of very vile, filthy human beings that do all sorts of fucked up shit. To anyone with an iota of common sense there's no question of their guilt but they get off based on a technicality or some police fuckup where they fucked up procedure, mishandled evidence or obtained evidence through non legal means. Bragging about getting shitstains of society off scott free just because they believe in 'fuck the police' and 'fuck the system' without a care for the innocent law abiding citizens that get fucked over by these vermin.
Gotcha. No common man would get away with that shit, but a millionaire celebrity can buy a guy to weasel them out of a sticky situation.

There's a British lawyer who has represented many celebrities, and who is famous for finding weird case law and technicalities to get cases thrown out of court, specifically driving offences. Can't remember his name off the top of my head, but he's known as "Mr Loophole" and has represented a bunch of footballers (soccer), including David Beckham.
 

Wild

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I read about the crash and his conviction. Some excerpts:

Hours before the incident, Ruggs and his girlfriend, Kiara Kilgo-Washington, were seen drinking at a Topgolf location on the Las Vegas Strip in Paradise. They left after midnight in his Chevrolet Corvette. Police produced digital evidence shortly thereafter showing that, at approximately 3:39 a.m., driving 156 miles per hour (251 km/h), Ruggs slammed into the Toyota RAV4 driven by Tintor. The Clark County Coroner determined that Tintor and her dog burned to death as her vehicle was engulfed in flames following the collision.

...

Police reports showed that Ruggs had refused to take a field sobriety test, and his blood test, taken two hours following the crash, revealed a blood alcohol content of 0.161%, more than twice the legal limit in Nevada.

...

Ruggs' defense attorney, David Chesnoff, argued that Ruggs was unable to submit to a field sobriety test because of the injuries he sustained in the accident, and claimed that the blood test should not be admissible as evidence since the police did not have probable cause to obtain a blood test. Justice of the Peace Ann Zimmerman rejected Chesnoff's arguments and ruled the blood test admissible as evidence in the case.

...

On May 10, 2023, as part of a plea agreement, Ruggs pleaded guilty to one count of felony DUI resulting in death and one count of misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter. Prosecutors said they reached a plea deal due to concerns the blood draw would be thrown out, and with it the only evidence to support the felony DUI charge. They were not willing to chance Ruggs only facing charges of reckless driving, which could have only resulted in probation.



Er, WHAT???

Police had witnesses that he had been drinking, and video of him driving at 156mph and crashing not long afterwards, but there's some doubt as to whether they had probable cause to do a blood test? What kind of bullshit is that?

So they give him a plea deal based on thae chance that the blood test would somehow be ruled inadmissable, and because they were worried that he would only get probation for reckless driving.

Probation??? For driving at 156mph and crasing into another car, killing the driver and her dog? That's considered an appropriate sentence? Holy shit, where I live if you kill someone driving at 150+mph, you're getting a manslaughter charge for sure. Plus the fact that refusing a breathalyser test at the scene is counted as failing it, and they can take blood for a test after any incident involving driving a car.

Are the laws that lenient all across the USA, or is it just the state where this happened?

Are US courts usually so lenient when it comes to this kind of thing?
The average citizen would do 15-20 yrs for vehicular homicide or manslaughter.
 

Chrit

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Apparently doing all the right things on the field...off the field however...


Apparently this is the second time already.
 

danggook

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I can't remember who it was on here that advocated for all these multi millionaire football stars to hire a personal chauffeur, but it would surely be a good investment. No DUIs, no speeding tickets, and they look like a baller being driven around to boot.
NFL used to have a car service the players could call anytime for free.

Still had loads of DUIs