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Me 4 years ago: How's Trump going to make America great again? It's already great.
You: Obama has created a lot of problems. I'm voting for Trump.
You often put words in my mouth, but seldom is it this literal.
No one said he was perfect. Above average. Easily top 22 presidents.

When voting in consideration of Obama. Mostly I voted against foreign policy that was highest priority to me at the time and planned expansions of the worst by Hillary.
But that wasn't the end of my voting or thinking. I didn't vote "anti-Obama". It was a combination of Hillary direction and Trump direction.
 
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So all jokes aside. Ignoring your team. And all that.

What's the strategy that each person needs to come away from this debate stealing some independents?
 

ThatOneDude

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So all jokes aside. Ignoring your team. And all that.

What's the strategy that each person needs to come away from this debate stealing some independents?
Basically not come off as the bigger idiot, unfortunately.
 

La Paix

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So all jokes aside. Ignoring your team. And all that.

What's the strategy that each person needs to come away from this debate stealing some independents?
Talk about policy

Answer questions with something directly related to what’s being asked

Don’t interrupt

Don’t vilify/pander to groups
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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You often put words in my mouth, but seldom is it this literal.
Forgive me, it was 4 years ago, and I obviously didn't remember clearly. However, this doesn't strike me as very far off from my synopsis.

I have 2 questions for those who are Trump supporters.

1) What exactly are his key platform promises? I've watched some debates, and follow the news and really haven't the slightest.
2) How is anyone going to "Make a America Great Again?" America has the only economy in the world right now that's firing on all cylinders. You guys are honestly more revered globally right now, than you have been in my lifetime.

I'm really struggling to wrap my head around the whole situation.
Not a Trump Support per se, but I get it a little bit.

I'll mainly address number 2.

Our economy is the best house in a bad neighborhood. We are at a very tenuous growth right now. We are almost 10 years out from the beginning of the economic down turn and two rounds of President Obama.

The numbers SEEM good on the surface:

5% unemployment. Stocks up. GDP great.

But that is ignoring that huge numbers of adults aren't working. We are at the lowest adult work rate since the 1970's. Those that aren't working are out of the market for years. Those that are working have had 8 years of flat wages that are often lower than what they were 15 years ago.

The economy is thriving by making more with less -- less workers, less pay, less time off.
The deficit is lower year after year!! But its because we ballooned it to almost a trillion dollars a few years ago for things like the "america recovery act" or whatever the "laser" focused jobs bill was supposed to be.

The middle class is still being royally fucked.

Despite where we are as a whole right now, every type we spend a TRILLION dollars and see something like this:




It's easy to understand where the anger comes from.
 

Sex Chicken

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So all jokes aside. Ignoring your team. And all that.

What's the strategy that each person needs to come away from this debate stealing some independents?
Biden needs to ditch the “we go high when they go low” approach that Hillary used to lose the most winnable election of the last 30 years. Biden needs to fucking get his back up and call Trump on his bullshit. He is such a glass house. Fucking embarrass him. He will fold when flustered and embarrassed. Hillary treated him as a viable candidate. He’s not. He’s a mental patient. He’s a joke about his hair away from crying and screaming the N-word.
 

Dick Niaz

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Oh Shit! Covington seated right behind the first family! UFC represent represent!