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Rambo John J

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They caught shit for doing it with Ngannuu.

Toughest thing in MMA is fighters rarely fight. It is tough to build a fanbase when you only fight once-twice a year & usually on PPV.
I thought with WME connections they would be all over talk shows & have more TV dedicated to top fighters, but we haven't seen it.
fighters need to fight more

primes are wasted on seasons of TUF and Long training camps

I miss the early days where you fight on 2-6 weeks notice...and champs fought 4-6 times a year
 

FrankieNYC

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fighters need to fight more

primes are wasted on seasons of TUF and Long training camps

I miss the early days where you fight on 2-6 weeks notice...and champs fought 4-6 times a year
I agree
They need to find a way to get fighters more TV time to build their personalities & have casuals connect
In this ADD era, the way combat sports works is tougher & tougher to get people connected when it is 1-2x a year.
 

aghof

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He mandates that none of his wrestlers are called "wrestler".
He refuses to let announcers use the term "wrestler"
Anytime WWE is called "wrestling", he immediately says "No we are Sports Entertainment"
isn't that a direction he went back in the steroid trial days when he wanted to get away from any involvement with the athletic commissions, etc.?
 

FrankieNYC

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isn't that a direction he went back in the steroid trial days when he wanted to get away from any involvement with the athletic commissions, etc.?
Terming it SE, he did, but he still allowed use of the word "wrestler" for years.
He coined "SE" before the steroid trial though.
The steroid trial was not AC related, but people dropping dimes on wrestlers ... I mean sports entertainers
 

Wild

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He mandates that none of his wrestlers are called "wrestler".
He refuses to let announcers use the term "wrestler"
Anytime WWE is called "wrestling", he immediately says "No we are Sports Entertainment"
Any idea on his reasoning for it?
 

SongExotic2

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I just wish they would drop the number of PPV's to 6-8 a year and stack the shit out of them. I don't even wanna think twice about whether or not it's worth the $...it should be a resounding "YES"!

Upping the price in the midst of a run of shitty PPV's (on paper) is a WTF? moment too. Fuckers.
This. Numbered events should be special Imo. I don't care if they keep the same number of events, try to put them on free tv to build towards paperviews. Tv is the place for fighters to make a name for themselves. Ppv should be packed with stars
 

FrankieNYC

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Any idea on his reasoning for it?
Vince likes to create his own world

You cannot say "hospital" but only say "medical facility"
No mention of "belts" but "championship opportunities"
No "fans" but "universe"
it is asinine

Wrrestler ( mean WWE Superstar) says: I can't wait to put my opponent in a local medical facility so I can get my championship opportunity in front of the WWE universe!

;)
 

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Vince likes to create his own world

You cannot say "hospital" but only say "medical facility"
No mention of "belts" but "championship opportunities"
No "fans" but "universe"
it is asinine

Wrrestler ( mean WWE Superstar) says: I can't wait to put my opponent in a local medical facility so I can get my championship opportunity in front of the WWE universe!

;)
Modern wrestling also name drops MMA a lot now. Every time alaister black wrestles they will mention his MMA training, same with nakamura, some lesbo chick and anyone else. They use a lot of MMA transitions on the ground too, one of the commentators (Cory graves) trained a bit and will talk through some triangle attempts etc.

The reason I'm mentioning this is I find it funny they go to the strides to offer some semblance of legitimacy yet they still won't utter the word they are most synonymous with (wrestling) and instead call them superstars instead.

Although I was very impressed when Brock smacked Braun strowman in the head recently (out of anger during a match) and the announcers sort of acknowledged it and acted as though it was no big deal. (It was great)

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FrankieNYC

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Modern wrestling also name drops MMA a lot now. Every time alaister black wrestles they will mention his MMA training, same with nakamura, some lesbo chick and anyone else. They use a lot of MMA transitions on the ground too, one of the commentators (Cory graves) trained a bit and will talk through some triangle attempts etc.

The reason I'm mentioning this is I find it funny they go to the strides to offer some semblance of legitimacy yet they still won't utter the word they are most synonymous with (wrestling) and instead call them superstars instead.

Although I was very impressed when Brock smacked Braun strowman in the head recently (out of anger during a match) and the announcers sort of acknowledged it and acted as though it was no big deal. (It was great)

Edit.

NXT mentions MMA a lot. It is looser due to no Vince, plus Mauro does PBP & Shayna is there.
Vince mentions it when it suits him like the Brock/Ronda stuff
But Vince had cain & DC front row & going crazy & told the production not to mention they were there by name
so fn silly
 

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Vince likes to create his own world

You cannot say "hospital" but only say "medical facility"
No mention of "belts" but "championship opportunities"
No "fans" but "universe"
it is asinine

Wrrestler ( mean WWE Superstar) says: I can't wait to put my opponent in a local medical facility so I can get my championship opportunity in front of the WWE universe!

;)
That is crazy. There has to be a method to his madness, as he's always came out right side up on the success meter.
 

FrankieNYC

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That is crazy. There has to be a method to his madness, as he's always came out right side up on the success meter.
Well ... WWE made over $800m in rev in 2017, they made under $35m in profit.
That is horrendous as a business (profit margin)
To spend $95+ to make $100 is not a great foundation.
But they still make money & Vince pays himself a lot in salary/dividends