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I always thought this was a hippie trail:


Kidding of course, i've been accused of being a hippy for my attitude many times in my life.
 

Disciplined Galt

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Shit doc, now that you have my hespect kind off. That's where fuckin' Hendrix and Janis Joplin got their habits. Before the Soviet invasion was instigated Afghanistan was one of the most friendly and pleasant places to get high in this world, what happened after the power players came and went is evident for all to see. Unfortunately the ones paying the consequences are innocent European women, for the most part. I know it's sort of hyperbole but I am fucking right. A close friend of mine is a Pashtun from NE Pakistan and he blames all of Afghan sorrows on 'mericans( that's silly, shit goes back to the Moghuls and before) and I sympathize to some degree.
Same with the Somali idiots we got in Sweden, fucking Mafia profits from dumping toxic waste at a poor nations coastline, fishermen run out of livelihood. And then you've gotta fend for yourself man.
 

Disciplined Galt

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An ideal world is if the US wasn't a fucking meddling bully but it is isn't it, so it's not is it.
Yeah. However that shit comes with the nature of power. I am not some badass, but I always get involved in personal conflicts around me because I know I can mitigate that shit.
I'd blame it more on arrogance, both in my and Americas case. Even though I am vastly more powerful than 'merka.
 

Sweets

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Yeah. However that shit comes with the nature of power. I am not some badass, but I always get involved in personal conflicts around me because I know I can mitigate that shit.
I'd blame it more on arrogance, both in my and Americas case. Even though I am vastly more powerful than 'merka.
We're similar humans. Power is the key word in your post, specifically lust for it. Arrogance implies a benevolence in their actions, which in reality only exists as a psychological tool to distract troops and civilians, from the actual outcomes of their actions.
 
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We're similar humans. Power is the key word in your post, specifically lust for it. Arrogance implies a benevolence in their actions, which in reality only exists as a psychological tool to distract troops and civilians, from the actual outcomes of their actions.
Those that seek power should be the last to have it, for sure.
 

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Living where they have lived their entire lives, I'm guessing they are likely lacking an understanding of what the rest of the world is like. If a smuggler told them it was an easy life - why wouldn't they believe it? You might say it's illogical - and it is - but the logical thoughts of people living in a civilized world are born from personal experiences. It's nothing these migrants would have much - if any - knowledge of.

Leaving their family in a dangerous environment is an interesting subject. To us, they live in an area that is insanely violent, but it's all they have ever known. Sure, they've been told that Europe offered better opportunity and a safer place to live, but I'm sure there was still some level of doubt. It's the whole "devil you know vs the devil you don't" scenario. I find it hard to fathom leaving a loved one in that mess while I rolled the dice and tried to find a better place to live, but their reality isn't my reality.

The whole thing is crazy.
 

Disciplined Galt

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We're similar humans. Power is the key word in your post, specifically lust for it. Arrogance implies a benevolence in their actions, which in reality only exists as a psychological tool to distract troops and civilians, from the actual outcomes of their actions.

I strongly disagree withe the semanticas but I ain't fucking English like you are.

Power is neutral, arrogance derides the subject. That was actually my main problem with @Splinty I thought he was talking down to people.
There are armies in the world that show power without the arrogance, now give me a croque monsieur.
 

Disciplined Galt

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Exactly, and god willing there is a sheep dog around to attack those who do.
Don't simplify it to much Irishman.
Just hung out with a 37 year old Serb (age matters because it does) last night, in Sweden the "Tigers of Arkan
are largely ok. After Clinton fucked Serbia up they are not. Funny how that works, now you fuckwads can enjoy what will come with allowing inferiors democracies. SMH
 

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I strongly disagree withe the semanticas but I ain't fucking English like you are.

Power is neutral, arrogance derides the subject. That was actually my main problem with @Splinty I thought he was talking down to people.
There are armies in the world that show power without the arrogance, now give me a croque monsieur.
But he is talking down to us, from his ivory tower on his yacht. I heard you get a yacht when you open an MMA forum, we all know being a Dr isn't paying the bills. :)
 

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I strongly disagree withe the semanticas but I ain't fucking English like you are.
I'm using a shitty click and type, I try to use as few characters as possible because it's annoying. It means I have to break out the big boy words for complex concepts.

Má úsaidaigh mé mo theanga dóchaisach ní bheid clúi agaibh cád a bhfuil mé a cainnt bhfuí.
 
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I'm using a shitty click and type, I try to use as few characters as possible because it's annoying. It means I have to break out the big boy words for complex concepts.

Má úsaidaigh mé mo theanga dóchaisach ní bheid clúi agaibh cád a bhfuil mé a cainnt bhfuí.
I think you broke my google translate.
 
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An ideal world is if the US wasn't a fucking meddling bully but it is isn't it, so it's not is it.
Meddling bully my ass. September 11 changed how the world works. And besides, we're the only global superpower. We have far more threats than any other country.

It's easy to sit back and tell us not to meddle when your country is not a target. Better to exterminate the enemy before the enemy tries to exterminate you is the way I look at it.
 
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We look out for our own self-interests, just like every other nation state before us and every one that will come after us. It's just magnified because we're in a position of global hegemony.
 
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Meddling bully my ass. September 11 changed how the world works. And besides, we're the only global superpower. We have far more threats than any other country.

It's easy to sit back and tell us not to meddle when your country is not a target. Better to exterminate the enemy before the enemy tries to exterminate you is the way I look at it.

 

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Having talked to you a good amount on here I think you'd be surprised at what you'd be capable of if you and your family were ever in this situation. After to you experienced the atrocities of war I can't imagine any scenario where you would leave your family behind while you exited the war zone
If you move to the netherlands and you get your "green card", you can file papers so that your wife and kids can come over legally.
The only problem is they won't get that "greencard", they get an asylum status and it takes a shitload of time, there are people here that are waiting for over 10 years to get an official status, some have kids who are born and raised here and who don't know shit about there parents country, and they get send back if the status is not granted, an asylum seeker is not allowed to work by the way.
So they get told by the smugglers go to europe you'll get a bigass house a moneytree in you backyard a good paying job and you can bring you family there as soon as you are settled.