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Fookster1982

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We don't know the mechanism for autism... And if a child is developmentally normal at age 1 but not at age 5.. You absolutely cannot say with any degree of confidence they got the condition in the womb... Considering you don't know the mechanism and their development path deviated way after.

You just say random shit. Lol serious question are you chatgpting the topic? Because that would make sense why you're rambling.
Autism has a component that is genetic. Twin studies have shown a 60 to 90% chance that if one twin has it, the other one will as well. There maybe a trigger that turns those genes on but we know there is a genetic component. Some cancers are genetic, just because you develop colorectal cancer at 60 years old doesn’t mean you didn’t have those genes when you were born.

we do know it is a neurodevelopmental disorder, that happens in utero. Just because we don’t know the exact mechanism doesn’t mean we know nothing. We don’t know exactly what causes depression but we know there is a genetic link, environmental factors ant play, and ways to treat it. The brain is super complex and we may never know exactly how things happen but we still know some things.

We do know that kids don’t suddenly turn Autistic. I’m sorry you are too fucking dumb to understand this.

I like how both of you think I use ChatGOT though, I guess that is the new e-insult, lol. No, I just have umptenth more years of medical experience than either of you and have spend years learning about this stuff. You guys use memes and Twitter to learn about it.
 

sparkuri

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This is classic, lol.

we know a number of things that increase the risk of autism. (1) Advancing parental age. More and more older adults are having children now than ever before. (2) Maternal obesity, diabetes, among other things. Yes, we are fatter than ever before and diabetes is on the rise as well. (3) Being premature. More and more babies that would have died 30 years ago due to being premature are now living and that increases the risk of autism. Remember, it is a neurodevelopmental disorder, premature babies don’t have enough time to fully develop. (4) Exposure to pollutants during pregnancy.

We have also broadened the diagnostic criteria, raised awareness, and increased access to healthcare. You know that quirky kid that kept to himself in Elementary school? 30 years ago he would have just been considered weird, no, probably turns out he was autistic and nobody knew any better. Depression, anxiety, and ADHD are also in the rise due to these same factors.

You had something terrible happen to a family member. I don’t blame your knee jerk reaction to demonize vaccines. I get it, I really do. It is just your view doesn’t align with reality and you are too ignorant to understand that. Instead you cling to fringe science and debunked myths about vaccines. I’m sorry for what happened to you but that doesn’t change the fact that there is no proven link between vaccines and autism.
You are a stupid idiot.
Like totally fucking retarded.
Know anyone allergic to eggs?
Strawberries, peanuts?
You're defending this because you're on the spectrum yourself.
EVERYONE has family affected.
EVERY Family has someone on the spectrum, whether it's dyslexia, aspergers, or cancer.
SV-40 CAUSES CANCER, PERIOD.
The epidemic did not exist before "vaccine schedules".
"SIDS"did not exist before the '83 schedule(yeah, lost a cousin to that one), "SADS" did not exist before the Covid "vax".

You're a nurse, I get it.
The most incompetent low-IQ humans on planet earth, foot soldiers of the medical industrial complex with social status certificates, "essential workers" too stupid to recognize the moniker goes back to WW1 POW camps.
 

sparkuri

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We do know that kids don’t suddenly turn Autistic. I’m sorry you are too fucking dumb to understand this.
I watched the moment it happened dumbass.
Millions of parents have.
Tell you what, go procreate & jab the fuck outta your kid & tell yourself "it's just genetic".

Btw, injections are given at birth for 2 main reasons.
1. CAUSE genetic malformation.
2. Obfuscate identification.

You sound like David Hogg talking about guns.
Just STFU
 

Fookster1982

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You are a stupid idiot.
Like totally fucking retarded.
Im rubber and you’re glue…

sparkuri said:
Know anyone allergic to eggs?
Strawberries, peanuts?-
Yes, what does that have to do with the price of eggs in China…

sparkuri said:
You're defending this because you're on the spectrum yourself.
Sick burn!!! That shouldn’t even be considered an insult or do you think lesser of people that are neurodivergent?

sparkuri said:
EVERYONE has family affected.
EVERY Family has someone on the spectrum, whether it's dyslexia, aspergers, or cancer.
I have nobody in my extended family with any of those except cancer but that is kind of a red herring unless you are saying vaccines cause all cancer???
sparkuri The epidemic did not exist before "vaccine schedules". "SIDS"did not exist before the '83 schedule(yeah said:
Umm… SIDS was first discovered in 1969 so that is demonstrably false… SADS was recognized in the 90s so that is 0 for 2…
sparkuri said:
You're a nurse, I get it.
The most incompetent low-IQ humans on planet earth, foot soldiers of the medical industrial complex with social status certificates, "essential workers" too stupid to recognize the moniker goes back to WW1 POW camps.
Nurse Practitioner…. Interesting, I think vaccine deniers are pretty fucking low IQ myself. At least I needed 7 years of college to qualify for my job while you just need to be retarded.

You can’t refute the facts. There is no link between autism and vaccines. There is a correlation but you should have learned that correlation does not mean causation in like the 9th grade, if you got that far.

I have the entire backing of researchers and the medical community along with a plethora of studies to support my position. You have Mel fucking Gibson so just shut the fuck up and let grown ups talk…
 

sparkuri

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Im rubber and you’re glue…


Yes, what does that have to do with the price of eggs in China…

Sick burn!!! That shouldn’t even be considered an insult or do you think lesser of people that are neurodivergent?

I have nobody in my extended family with any of those except cancer but that is kind of a red herring unless you are saying vaccines cause all cancer???


 

Fookster1982

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I watched the moment it happened dumbass.
Millions of parents have.
Tell you what, go procreate & jab the fuck outta your kid & tell yourself "it's just genetic".

Btw, injections are given at birth for 2 main reasons.
1. CAUSE genetic malformation.
2. Obfuscate identification.

You sound like David Hogg talking about guns.
Just STFU
You haven’t watched someone turn autistic you fucking mongoloid. “Regression” is recognized but extremely fucking rare. I did procreate and vaccinated both kids with absolutely no side effects, just like millions of other parents with neurotypical children.

Injections are given at birth for one main reason: to protect against disease.
 

Jamie999

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Autism has a component that is genetic. Twin studies have shown a 60 to 90% chance that if one twin has it, the other one will as well. There maybe a trigger that turns those genes on but we know there is a genetic component. Some cancers are genetic, just because you develop colorectal cancer at 60 years old doesn’t mean you didn’t have those genes when you were born.

we do know it is a neurodevelopmental disorder, that happens in utero. Just because we don’t know the exact mechanism doesn’t mean we know nothing. We don’t know exactly what causes depression but we know there is a genetic link, environmental factors ant play, and ways to treat it. The brain is super complex and we may never know exactly how things happen but we still know some things.

We do know that kids don’t suddenly turn Autistic. I’m sorry you are too fucking dumb to understand this.

I like how both of you think I use ChatGOT though, I guess that is the new e-insult, lol. No, I just have umptenth more years of medical experience than either of you and have spend years learning about this stuff. You guys use memes and Twitter to learn about it.
Lol you're so wrong. They absolutely do NOT know it happens in utero.
 

Fookster1982

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Lol you're so wrong. They absolutely do NOT know it happens in utero.
Really? The scientifically honest answer is we don’t know exactly but we have a really good idea. It happens in utero and shortly after birth. I’m just telling you the general understanding of autism as it is now, accepted by the medical community and autism experts. When you “lol” at what I type, you are loling expert opinion. You do you though.
 

Fookster1982

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ASD is a largely heritable, multistage, prenatal disorder that impacts a child’s ability to perceive and react to social information. Most ASD risk genes express prenatally and fall into two categories: broadly-expressed regulatory genes that express in the brain and other organs and brain-specific genes. In trimesters 1 to 3 (Epoch-1), one set of broadly-expressed (the majority) and brain-specific risk genes disrupt cell proliferation, neurogenesis, migration and cell fate, while in trimester 3 and early postnatal (Epoch-2) another set (the majority being brain-specific) disrupt neurite outgrowth, synaptogenesis and “wiring” of cortex.

 

Fookster1982

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ASD is a largely heritable, multistage, prenatal disorder that impacts a child’s ability to perceive and react to social information. Most ASD risk genes express prenatally and fall into two categories: broadly-expressed regulatory genes that express in the brain and other organs and brain-specific genes. In trimesters 1 to 3 (Epoch-1), one set of broadly-expressed (the majority) and brain-specific risk genes disrupt cell proliferation, neurogenesis, migration and cell fate, while in trimester 3 and early postnatal (Epoch-2) another set (the majority being brain-specific) disrupt neurite outgrowth, synaptogenesis and “wiring” of cortex.

Yeah…. Sounds like they have NO IDEA…
 

sparkuri

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Lol you're so wrong. They absolutely do NOT know it happens in utero.
I finally put someone on ignore, he is a foolish ignorant troll..
The scariest day of my life was when my 1 1/2 year old had what I thought was a stroke right in front of my eyes the day after a "vaccine".
She went limp, eyes glossed over, couldn't talk or feel.
I was wearing nothing but boxers & a t-shirt & me & the wife did 80 mph down backroads to get to the ER. She was unresponsive going through multiple tests, then transferred to Children's.
When parents go though it is world-changing, different than anything else. That was 22 years ago, the very second I saw her go from Gerber baby to autistic, for life.

Fools like this fookster kid are infuriatingly stupid to parrot their worthless worldviews.
I picture them dipping french fries in sauce daily because fast food is "convenient", just still kids.
Do not waste another second entertaining the air he occupies is my advice.
They get off by hearing themselves confirm bias.
Like Yuri Bezmenov said, "facts mean nothing to them. You can show them the documents, take them to the gulags, and they will not believe it. Only when the boot is in their neck, THEN they will understand".

This is psychology.
He can't allow himself to believe this.
It's the same as leaving a religion after a lifetime, and that in itself takes more than gumption.
 

Fookster1982

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I would be upset with the world too if that happened to my daughter. Just like Jamie hates psych meds because of his experience. Your anecdotes don’t outweigh overwhelming scientific evidence though. Bad things happen to good people, sucks. Trust me, I know.
 

Jamie999

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ASD is a largely heritable, multistage, prenatal disorder that impacts a child’s ability to perceive and react to social information. Most ASD risk genes express prenatally and fall into two categories: broadly-expressed regulatory genes that express in the brain and other organs and brain-specific genes. In trimesters 1 to 3 (Epoch-1), one set of broadly-expressed (the majority) and brain-specific risk genes disrupt cell proliferation, neurogenesis, migration and cell fate, while in trimester 3 and early postnatal (Epoch-2) another set (the majority being brain-specific) disrupt neurite outgrowth, synaptogenesis and “wiring” of cortex.

It's challenging because you see a bunch of complex processes and big words and just go straight to they are experts they must be right.

Just because you publish something doesn't mean you are correct.

Did you even read what you linked? References multiple studies with single digit n, biased sampling, these are more case study then anything else. The irony is you talking shit about our personal anecdotes when case studies are just anecdotes lol.

I can discuss more when I'm not working.