General Rittenhouse trial

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Filthy

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I don't know how else to answer your question about proof that people at large feel one way and that the laws don't represent the opinions of the at large populace other than showing you at large populace opinion polls.

To answer this direct question I think there's a big difference between people's consideration for protection of their home versus consideration of carrying a weapon everywhere they go in public.
I don't think it's a big jump to say those are two totally separate conditions with separate context that would get very different opinions in the same group.










Wut??

At various levels voting doesn't even represent half the population, It usually skews older, whiter, and more conservative than any other measuring of the populaces actual opinions nearly every single level of voting from local to state to federal.
polls are more easily skewed than votes. People say lots of thing for lots of reasons when people are asking, but they generally vote their morality and self-interest.
Generally.

but firearm ownership is up amongst all demographics, and the laws all take the same basic moral stance on self-defense.

but I'm still trying to figure out how Kyle's AR was provocative (to the general population there) but none of the other armaments were provoking violence. Also not sure how police are "protecting and serving" when they show up dressed to provoke violence with their ARs.

I think people are frightened by White Nationalists making armed patrols and ambushing people protesting for social justice, but that wasn't what was happening in Kenosha...that's just the narrative the media ran with to advance their profit agendas.
 

Filthy

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still majority (but decreasing) support for stricter laws regarding sales, same/less strict laws on possession and carry.
 

Filthy

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As the resident libertarian, I find it somewhat funny that your go to is the idea that people can't be trusted in their opinions and are easily manipulated idiots.

Maybe people just disagree with you and many think it's unhelpful and reckless to drive to a riot with an open carry ar15.
In this case even the facts support the open carry ar15 as the reason Rosenbaum singled out Rittenhouse as a rival and threat as well as the potential to lose said ar15 as justification to shoot Rosenbaum.


As for minority opinions driving gun laws,
It's true here and elsewhere.
it's also continually true when looking at federal polls asking if we should have "more" or "less" gun laws where the consensus is now the highest since 1992 awb that we need more gun control, all while we continually move to less.

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Most Texas voters don’t support unlicensed handgun carry, UT/TT Poll finds
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Three-fourths of the state’s voters believe Texas should require criminal and mental background checks before any gun sales, including those at gun shows and private transactions. Only 18% oppose such checks.
this is an example of a suspect result. I can't find the question they asked, but background checks are already required at a gun show, and I bet if you dig on that question you'll find that most don't support background checks for private transfers.
 

Shinkicker

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Certainly suspicious to be a pseudo-seizure given the convenient timing, but can’t say for sure based on the video
My first thought was to rule out benzo withdrawal. Lol.

Filthy @Filthy , the cause of the seizures can make them atypical, or look different. I agree that didn't look like a typical seizure.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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but I'm still trying to figure out how Kyle's AR was provocative (to the general population there) but none of the other armaments were provoking violence. Also not sure how police are "protecting and serving" when they show up dressed to provoke violence with their ARs.
Just wait until he starts with the "Well, what did she think was going to happen being dressed like that?"
 

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I was awfully confused by the "three black men" headline.
What the fuck is so hard about getting basic information correct?

I suppose it's harder when you let your bias write the headline.