General Russia Ukraine round 2 Price hike boogaloo

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Marx hated Ruskies but this is more fake news, bruv. This is just him relaying what some Polish cunt said and saying he hopes it is true because it would undermine Panslavism.
They’re Mongol finns bruv

why are you trying to justify his Russophobia
 

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They’re Mongol finns bruv

why are you trying to justify his Russophobia
I said he said he wanted it to be true.

Nobody hated each other more than 19th century German and Ruskie lefties.
 

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Sheepdog @Sheepdog fite da pentagon

It will just depend on how you define 'win the war'. They have pushed Ruskies from the North. That's a win. They won't hold the Donbass. That will be a loss.

For me, the ball game comes down to Odessa, Kharkiv and Dnipro (and Zaporozhiza by extension).I don't believe the Ruskie Kiev 'diversion, bro' story, but I do believe that it was only their 'best case' gamble. South and East have always been their main goal.

If Russia takes none of these, it has lost. If Ukraine loses all of these, it has lost. Somewhere in the middle, a draw. Odessa in particular would be a catastrophic defeat for Ukraine.
 
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I said he said he wanted it to be true.

Nobody hated each other more than 19th century German and Ruskie lefties.
Right but he didn’t say it, he just quoted it and wished it was true. You are on a slippery slope my friend.


It will just depend on how you define 'win the war'. They have pushed Ruskies from the North. That's a win. They won't hold the Donbass. That will be a loss.

For me, the ball game comes down to Odessa, Kharkiv and Dnipro (and Zaporozhiza by extension).I don't believe the Ruskie Kiev 'diversion, bro' story, but I do believe that it was only their 'best case' gamble. South and East have always been their main goal.

If Russia takes none of these, it has lost. If Ukraine loses all of these, it has lost. Somewhere in the middle, a draw. Odessa in particular would be a catastrophic defeat for Ukraine.
i hope Dey get da Donbass back, purely to spite u
 

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Right but he didn’t say it, he just quoted it and wished it was true. You are on a slippery slope my friend.
This is somewhat fair, but Marx didn't have the same level of 'push the Mongols back past the Dnieper' racist fervour as the guy he was paraphrasing did.

He just saw backwards Tsarist Russia as a threat to central European revolutions. He just hoped they would be exposed as mongols so that Slavic nationalism could be undermined. He still did hate them though.
 
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This is somewhat fair, but Marx didn't have the same level of 'push the Mongols back past the Dnieper' racist fervour as the guy he was paraphrasing did.

He just saw backwards Tsarist Russia as a threat to central European revolutions. He just hoped they would be exposed as mongols so that Slavic nationalism could be undermined. He still did hate them though.
Hate is hate and if you actually condemn it you don’t try to lessen its impact or intent with deflections bruv. I’m worried aboot u
 

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Right but he didn’t say it, he just quoted it and wished it was true. You are on a slippery slope my friend.



i hope Dey get da Donbass back, purely to spite u
I want both sides to be able to declare victory to their own people so they have an excuse to stop killing each other and themselves.
 

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