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Tuc Ouiner

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Before youz people yell Allah Akbar or whatever and then detonate, do you have to shave your ass and balls? And is it acceptable to get it waxed by an infidel or must you do it yourself or get a lower-ranking brother to liberate you of your hair? Not sure if I wanna join your Jihad thing or not, gotta find out more. Thank you sir.
 

Tom O'Bedlam

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How was removing him a mistake?
The formation of the Islamic State and the Levant?

I mean, don't get me wrong, leaving him in power was a mistake too. But there wasn't really a right choice we could have made in regard to what is best for another country.

There is no right choice, just the choice that was made. Which probably revolved around a monetary gain for someone if I had to guess.
 

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Horseshit. If a consequence of removing evil is more evil then fucking nuke it
 

Tom O'Bedlam

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Horseshit. If a consequence of removing evil is more evil then fucking nuke it
A consequence of living on earth with humans is suffering evil.

They are also equally as wonderful though.


Balance.
 
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I'll put it this way: unless you were there, you don't really know much about it. Hell i was there and there's so much intel we didn't have.
 

Tuc Ouiner

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Why do Eskimos wash their laundry in Tide? Because it's too damn cold OUT- Tide. If yall don't stop your bickering I will be forced to lob another corny joke in the middle of your Octagon.
 

yuki2054

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You may want to research just a tiny bit on Uday.
I actually read the papers every day, and the internet, for most of the five odd years the war took place. Actually we never officially declared war. I don't know what red hoops they were trying to jump through. Sure Saddam and his sons were a nasty bunch, but what we did to them was far far worse, in any reasonable estimation.

Like i said, i am not the only one who was against the war, and i certainly aren't now.

The fact that at least some of you, called an innocent civilian who fled from iraq, a pussy traitor or something like that (i can't remember the exact words) says nothing of his guilt, but a hell of a lot about yours im afraid. You made this mess.
 

Tom O'Bedlam

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There is no way to know whether or not it was the best decision. For all we know Saddam could have died suddenly and left the U brothers to rule. They likely would have been far more volatile as leaders and likely could have caused as much damage as ISIS has so far (had they had the same help from the US that ISIS did).

We just can't know.

We do know Saddam (and his fam) was a massive piece of shit and he was replaced by something much more difficult to fight but equally as brutal, and perhaps on a larger scale.

Another consequence of existence is it continues on without the possibility of knowing what other potential futures could have been.
 
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I actually read the papers every day, and the internet, for most of the five odd years the war took place. Actually we never officially declared war. I don't know what red hoops they were trying to jump through. Sure Saddam and his sons were a nasty bunch, but what we did to them was far far worse, in any reasonable estimation.

Like i said, i am not the only one who was against the war, and i certainly aren't now.

The fact that at least some of you, called an innocent civilian who fled from iraq, a pussy traitor or something like that (i can't remember the exact words) says nothing of his guilt, but a hell of a lot about yours im afraid. You made this mess.
Yeah no. I didn't make messes. I was cleanup detail.

Marching in a protest is all well and good, but what did you accomplish?

When the ied went off under my truck, i pulled my driver free of the wreckage. When the car bomb went off in Tal Afar's marketplace, i saved that young man from bleeding out. When that bombmaker was laughing about murdering children, i kicked him to sleep. When that asshole started taking potshots at our convoy that was protecting noncombatants, i'm the guy who turned him into chunky salsa.

There's taking a side, and then there's taking a stand. Big difference.
 

yuki2054

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Yeah no. I didn't make messes. I was cleanup detail.

Marching in a protest is all well and good, but what did you accomplish?

When the ied went off under my truck, i pulled my driver free of the wreckage. When the car bomb went off in Tal Afar's marketplace, i saved that young man from bleeding out. When that bombmaker was laughing about murdering children, i kicked him to sleep. When that asshole started taking potshots at our convoy that was protecting noncombatants, i'm the guy who turned him into chunky salsa.

There's taking a side, and then there's taking a stand. Big difference.
Answer me this, how many people did you kill. Then tell me how many you would have killed if tony and his buddy bush didn't attack. See the difference?

They locked up up in acute rehab for about ten years because of my opposition to the war. At the time the whole country were on your side (i live in britain btw)....

plus i got banned from nearly every martial arts site on the planet, and more then one martial arts club.

I don't regret having a military, and neither should you, but sometimes we have to question the validity of some of the decisions of the executive. And so what if you could beat me in a street fight? Hell you guys live in america, and most of you are packing.

Fact is i am from britain, where firearms are not allowed, and the average person on the street has about as much knowledge of anything martial as the colonel does from kfc.

I also have a wife, a step daughter, a good degree, and a voluntary job. And just as i admire the fact that some of you have been in the military, and you love your country, i am fighting my own war.

And yes i hold you personally responsible for every innocent iraqi you slaughtered, and bombed in their sleep. Go give your selves a medal.
 
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Answer me this, how many people did you kill. Then tell me how many you would have killed if tony and his buddy bush didn't attack. See the difference?

They locked up up in acute rehab for about ten years because of my opposition to the war. At the time the whole country were on your side (i live in britain btw)....

plus i got banned from nearly every martial arts site on the planet, and more then one martial arts club.

I don't regret having a military, and neither should you, but sometimes we have to question the validity of some of the decisions of the executive. And so what if you could beat me in a street fight? Hell you guys live in america, and most of you are packing.

Fact is i am from britain, where firearms are not allowed, and the average person on the street has about as much knowledge of anything martial as the colonel does from kfc.

I also have a wife, a step daughter, a good degree, and a voluntary job. And just as i admire the fact that some of you have been in the military, and you love your country, i am fighting my own war.

And yes i hold you personally responsible for every innocent iraqi you slaughtered, and bombed in their sleep. Go give your selves a medal.
 
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FACT - Iraq never had WMD's

FACT - The US Invasion was what spurred the creation of ISIS (Yes, AQIP existed beforehand, but they would have nowhere near the reach and power they currently have if Saddam were still in power).

FACT - We most likely invaded Iraq and deposed a dictator for reasons that rhyme with boil.

FACT- There are other dictators in the world, even now.

FACT - The only part of Iraq that is probably now better off than before is Kurdistan.

FACT - The Iraqi military got murked by the American military.

#Yourewelcome
 
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FACT - Iraq never had WMD's

FACT - The US Invasion was what spurred the creation of ISIS (Yes, AQIP existed beforehand, but they would have nowhere near the reach and power they currently have if Saddam were still in power).

FACT - We most likely invaded Iraq and deposed a dictator for reasons that rhyme with boil.

FACT- There are other dictators in the world, even now.

FACT - The only part of Iraq that is probably now better off than before is Kurdistan.

FACT - The Iraqi military got murked by the American military.

#Yourewelcome
Accurate.

Just like my shot group. :D

 

yuki2054

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FACT - Iraq never had WMD's

FACT - The US Invasion was what spurred the creation of ISIS (Yes, AQIP existed beforehand, but they would have nowhere near the reach and power they currently have if Saddam were still in power).

FACT - We most likely invaded Iraq and deposed a dictator for reasons that rhyme with boil.

FACT- There are other dictators in the world, even now.

FACT - The only part of Iraq that is probably now better off than before is Kurdistan.

FACT - The Iraqi military got murked by the American military.

#Yourewelcome
finally.... thanks for backing me up. see i knew i'm not the only one who thought that it was/is a mistake.....