General So that didn't take long.... AFGHANISTAN

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Hwoarang

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Oct 22, 2015
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No. Of course not.

I just feel we ran away so quickly we lost any honour. Biden has made the biggest fuck up in his life.

Its the worst of all worlds what he has done.

Makes no sense.
A decision was made to invade the country of Afghanistan after a 90 second investigation into 9/11.
Then it was proven you invaded Iraq under deliberate false pretenses.
Then it came out you were funding these Islamic terrorist organisations.
Then you went like rabid dogs after the whistle blowers.
Honestly, I don't think you need to be worried about losing any honour, you didn't really have any left to lose and it should be pretty clear to even US citizens now that the US government never gave a fuck about any brown people in the middle east.
 

SongExotic2

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This has been a very peaceful occupation, as far as they go, most of the governors just waiving the white flag and handing over cities. I'm curious to see what happens when the USMC shows up and says fuck off or we will shoot you. Then proceeds to shoot them. Will it halt the advance or work as a catalyst to really unite the Taliban to drive forward?

What an awful thing to be wondering. But in the next few hours there's gonna be marines in Kabul.
 

SongExotic2

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If the country is under siege and khandahar is gone where the fuck are the 5000 troops flying to? Kabul?
 

SongExotic2

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Boris Johnson is calling parliament regarding Afghanistan.
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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Biden has made the biggest fuck up in his life.
Which is saying something.
The biggest fuckup in a long list of fuckups.

What a fucking disaster this administrstion is.
Is the Sept 11 withdrawal still on point? Idiots.
 

FINGERS

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Nov 14, 2019
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Nuts


The ANDSF have proven utterly incapable of defeating the Taliban offensive. On paper, this shouldn’t even be possible. Consider that the personnel for both the Taliban and the ANDSF are largely drawn from the same Afghan talent pool.

The side being routed right now has an army, on paper, of 300,000 men, been given training by the most powerful military alliance on earth, received hundreds of billions in support, has at least a rudimentary air force, an armored fleet and the backing of its government.

The Taliban, in contrast, has approximately 75,000 men, no formal backing from any state, no trained army, no air force, no technology, and only what vehicles and weapons they can scrounge on the open market – yet they are dominating their more numerous, better equipped and better-funded opponents. The reasons the ANDSF has thus far failed, however, are not hard to identify.



 

Sheepdog

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Dec 1, 2015
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Which is saying something.
The biggest fuckup in a long list of fuckups.

What a fucking disaster this administrstion is.
Is the Sept 11 withdrawal still on point? Idiots.
Trump signed the peace deal with the Taliban and ordered the troop withdrawal.

What are you suggesting Sleepy Creepy should have done?
 

FINGERS

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Trump signed the peace deal with the Taliban and ordered the troop withdrawal.

What are you suggesting Sleepy Creepy should have done?

Given them one more winter.

At least we could have pretended to get a phased withdrawal in place and an escape route readied for the women.

Anything has to be better than this surrender surely.

George Bush ruined the ruined futures of more people in the world since Hitler.
 

Sheepdog

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Nuts


The ANDSF have proven utterly incapable of defeating the Taliban offensive. On paper, this shouldn’t even be possible. Consider that the personnel for both the Taliban and the ANDSF are largely drawn from the same Afghan talent pool.

The side being routed right now has an army, on paper, of 300,000 men, been given training by the most powerful military alliance on earth, received hundreds of billions in support, has at least a rudimentary air force, an armored fleet and the backing of its government.

The Taliban, in contrast, has approximately 75,000 men, no formal backing from any state, no trained army, no air force, no technology, and only what vehicles and weapons they can scrounge on the open market – yet they are dominating their more numerous, better equipped and better-funded opponents. The reasons the ANDSF has thus far failed, however, are not hard to identify.



LOL at this fucking spastic serving combat tours while simultaneously writing articles about how we can't win a war that he is literally fighting in.

He thinks he is so very enlightened and yet puts himself in harm's way for a futile cause and refuses to recognize his own culpability. What an absolute mong.

'I vas only following ze orders'
 

FINGERS

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LOL at this fucking spastic serving combat tours while simultaneously writing articles about how we can't win a war that he is literally fighting in.

He thinks he is so very enlightened and yet puts himself in harm's way for a futile cause and refuses to recognize his own culpability. What an absolute mong.

'I vas only following ze orders'

He is probably one of the best to comment.

He also quotes American Generals who wrote secret reports saying lets not surge then in public say the exact opposite.

This was also an interesting passage and from The Afghan Papers, nothing to do with him.


Also exposed in the Afghan Papers was the candid opinion of Ambassador Ryan Crocker. At a 2016 interview with SIGAR staff, Crocker explained that the Afghan special forces could help the US “clear an area, but the police can’t hold it, not because they’re out-gunner or out-manned. It’s because they are useless as a security force and they’re useless as a security force because they are corrupt down to the patrol level.”

That observation was nothing new to Crocker, however, as he further admitted that “of all the painful lessons I carry out of my time in those two war zones, Iraq and Afghanistan, it’s the … corruption at every level, that is the starkest point.”
 

kaladin stormblessed

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Apr 24, 2017
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No. Of course not.

I just feel we ran away so quickly we lost any honour. Biden has made the biggest fuck up in his life.

Its the worst of all worlds what he has done.

Makes no sense.
biden wont lose voters over this. withdrawal, regardless of the consequences to pakistanis, is widely popular among both parties