General Student Debt Relief - Scrapped

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Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
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I’ve been paying student loans for like 20 years. I was hoping they would wipe away the remaining debt so i can finally own those degrees.
They'll forgive student debt 1 week after you pay them off.
 

rmenergy

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If the gov't never got involved in student loans, tuition wouldn't be so high.

Once again, DC is struggling to fix something they fucked up the first time they tried to fix it.

Time for them to double down and make it way worse.
Removing colleges from loan risk is what got us into this mess. Colleges used to be on the hook for 50% of the loan should the borrower default. This practice made colleges actually consider the student/borrower, their major & future possibility of actually making payments. This, of course, is a racist practice so colleges were given a blank check to approve nearly everyone when their "skin in the game" was removed. This allowed colleges to greatly expand worthless departments & faculty. This raises teh overall cost to customers/students.

Put colleges back on the hook for 50% of the student loans & watch the cost of college plummet. You'll also see the reduction in useless degrees.
 

RhinoHog

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Good... take out a loan.. pay it the fuck back or give us all a refund... well not me, I'm Canuckistani but you hard working Americastanis...
 

RhinoHog

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I had about 12k in student loans for Power Engineering in 1994 for a starting wage of about 60k per year ended up at 200K now, needless to say, it was paid off in year 1.
 

rmenergy

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I had about 12k in student loans for Power Engineering in 1994 for a starting wage of about 60k per year ended up at 200K now, needless to say, it was paid off in year 1.
I'm a college dropout as I didn't want to go into debt & ran out of money. Made about 193 last year. 1st powerplant construction job after dropping out was paying nearly 2200/week with the ot. 1st operator position in 07 started around 80-85/yr base but didn't have to travel & could ride a bicycle to work 1/2 the time.
 

RhinoHog

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I'm a college dropout as I didn't want to go into debt & ran out of money. Made about 193 last year. 1st powerplant construction job after dropping out was paying nearly 2200/week with the ot. 1st operator position in 07 started around 80-85/yr base but didn't have to travel & could ride a bicycle to work 1/2 the time.
Lol... now I make nothing hahaha....
 

RhinoHog

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you keep searching that sponsor list i sent you?
I do brotha.... no luck. I have a bit of an inside to a maint planner job at the power plant I started at as the maint manager is a friend. We shall see. Less money but straight days, better life.
 

RhinoHog

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26 years of rotating shift work is enough I think... 120 a year vs 200 but I have 7 figs in the bank so I think I'l be okay..lol.
 

rmenergy

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26 years of rotating shift work is enough I think...
I'll stay on shift as long as my body holds together. I prefer the lack of politics while on shift. Still get more than my share of it during supervisor & manager monthly meetings as well as the days I have to be here during the week.
 

RhinoHog

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I'll stay on shift as long as my body holds together. I prefer the lack of politics while on shift. Still get more than my share of it during supervisor & manager monthly meetings as well as the days I have to be here during the week.
I completely get that, i'm almost 50 now so I kinda think the 4 days, 4.5 day weeks might help with health issues.
 

rmenergy

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I completely get that, i'm almost 50 now so I kinda think the 4 days, 4.5 day weeks might help with health issues.
I'll be 46 this year. I'm still one of the youngest in the control room. On my crew, my youngest dispatcher is 2days younger than me. Oldest just turned 62 & another is early 50's. I'm also the youngest senior by 10yrs. Two are in their 60's while the next youngest is, I think, 57.
 

RhinoHog

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Holy shit.... that's a young crew. I was the oldest tenured shift engineer at my last job at 47. That's october of 22.
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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Removing colleges from loan risk is what got us into this mess. Colleges used to be on the hook for 50% of the loan should the borrower default. This practice made colleges actually consider the student/borrower, their major & future possibility of actually making payments. This, of course, is a racist practice so colleges were given a blank check to approve nearly everyone when their "skin in the game" was removed. This allowed colleges to greatly expand worthless departments & faculty. This raises teh overall cost to customers/students.

Put colleges back on the hook for 50% of the student loans & watch the cost of college plummet. You'll also see the reduction in useless degrees.
And all of that coincided with the gov't accepting the risk of loans instead of the banks.

Colleges everywhere jacked up their rates knowing the gov't wouldn't deny the figure. It was an open checkbook they took full advantage of.

Anything DC touches gets completely fucked up.
 

Hauler

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I'm a college dropout as I didn't want to go into debt & ran out of money.
Same.
Entered the work force after a couple years of college to pay for tuition. Never went back.

Now I'm hiring for jobs that require a degree that I don't have. That irony isn't lost on me and I go to bat for an otherwise qualified applicant on the regular.

For many professions, college is a scam.
The students need to see that, and so do corporations.
 

rmenergy

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And all of that coincided with the gov't accepting the risk of loans instead of the banks.

Colleges everywhere jacked up their rates knowing the gov't wouldn't deny the figure. It was an open checkbook they took full advantage of.

Anything DC touches gets completely fucked up.
Agreed. Of course the "equality" groups chime in & say that going back to actually vetting borrowers isn't fair. Is it "unfair"? Sure it is. If you're rich & your daughter wants to take women's studies for her Mrs. degree, that'll be fine as the family has the money to secure the loan. Now are you going to give the same loan to a poor kid from the trailer park or projects? Hell no. How are those kids going to payback the loan when graduating with that piece of paper? Now a good student from a poor family looking at an engineering, applied mathematics, physics or other STEM based subject would likely be granted the loan. If they do well in life, that students kids can fuck off with the useless degree if that's what they want.
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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I do brotha.... no luck. I have a bit of an inside to a maint planner job at the power plant I started at as the maint manager is a friend. We shall see. Less money but straight days, better life.
Better life > Better money
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
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For many professions, college is a scam.
The students need to see that, and so do corporations.
If college tuition was a sound financial investment, people would come out of college easily making enough to repay their loans and this would be a non-issue.
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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The horrible practice of releasing reserves will stop. So yeah, gas prices will likely climb.

The reserves were all about keeping fuel prices somewhat in check. Now that the vote is over, fuck your wallet.

Stocking the reserves back up will have a huge negative impact. Not only will we be buying at a higher price, we'll also be pulling from the current supply which - yup, you guessed it - increases pricing.

Just another example of this administration being completely clueless. I don't even blame Biden anymore - he ain't running shit. That's pretty obvious every time you hear him talk.
You may be thinking "Damn. Does Hauler @Hauler ever get tired of being right all the time?"

Biden just cancelled a 6M barrel order that was supposed to help refill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve from when he released 180M barrels for political gain.

Why did he cancel? The prices are way too high. The reserves will remain empty as fuck. Good thing there's no uncertainty with Russia or China at the moment or we would be in a very precarious position.

 

Robbie Hart

All Kamala Voters Are Born Losers, Ha Ha Ha
Feb 13, 2015
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You may be thinking "Damn. Does Hauler @Hauler ever get tired of being right all the time?"

Biden just cancelled a 6M barrel order that was supposed to help refill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve from when he released 180M barrels for political gain.

Why did he cancel? The prices are way too high. The reserves will remain empty as fuck. Good thing there's no uncertainty with Russia or China at the moment or we would be in a very precarious position.

Because Biden is a cunt but has no problem laundering money to the Ukraine
 

Jesus X

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Sep 7, 2015
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The whole student loan thing really does feel unfair sometimes. Back in 2021, I owned a cleaning business and had to file for bankruptcy. Nobody came around forgiving my loans or any part of it. I took responsibility for my situation and paid back every cent I owed. It's tough watching these debt relief promises come and go while thinking about folks like us who've had to grind it out.
I feel this way about reparations black folks are going to get their stuff paid for but latinos,whites and asians are still going to have to pay bills out their own earnings pretty messed up