General Terror attack at Mandalay Bay

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pews&vrooms
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Oct 21, 2015
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Its been awhile. I thought it was aroung the speed of an average .223 round. Hopefully I didnt give out bad info.
I actually believe there’s different ones and they list the minimal velocity to detonate. I dunno, we just grabbed a couple jugs off the shelf to blow up hogs.
 

lueVelvet

WHERT DA FERCK?
Aug 29, 2015
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I am hesitant to take laura loomer too seriously.she is a nutjob
I haven’t found the points she brings up not interesting but I also don’t think it’s some big conspiracy coverup either. I just think there’s so much that doesn’t make sense as to why (not how but the why) that folks are grasping at straws to milk the news cycle over this.

It didn’t help that the feds and LVMPD publicly make/made assumptions and release inaccurate statements about the investigation. If they don’t know they shouldn’t assume...

So they found a cord that at first didn’t fit but then it takes them a few hours to figure out it did fit one of his phones? Why release that info to begin with?

His “master plan” to escape though he picked the farthest room down the longest hallway to the only way he could escape? Maybe I’m wrong about that one but does anyone know what the closest exit off that floor was in relation to his room? If it’s the elevator or stairwell in the center of the building I doubt he expected to escape this. More like trying to buy himself more time to react should he see the po po rushing down the hall.

He didn’t buys guns for decades. He bought a few handguns. Maybe traded some in when they got dirty because he couldn’t be around the chemicals used to clean guns. Much like the car oil change story, if it required work or if he was already at the store, he would trade it in and get a new one. But he wasn’t collecting an arsenal of AR’s for decades. He started that in October 2016.

I think they finally corrected the assumption he was working with someone but that assumption caused a shitstorm online.

It will be very difficult but we may have to live with the idea that he took his motive with him. That’s a hard pill to swallow since we’re trying to find closure with this too and so are the families.


Lately we’ve been spending time as a family trying to work with the feds and LVMPD. We answered a huge list of questions for them to try and developed a psychological profile on him. I’m not sure how much of it will lead them to anything though. People now know pretty much how that guy lived day in and day out for the past 15-20 years. What’s terrifying is that he never gave an iota of a clue to anyone that he was thinking these things. We do struggle with that one a bit. I mean how far fucked in your mental hell do you have to be where you can’t call your own brother to say, “Hey, this is weird but I have the urge to massacre people.” Or mention anything about buying an AR or something like that?

Sorry we’re still trying to grasp at our own straws to make sense of this.
 

Mix6APlix

The more you cry, the less I care.
Oct 20, 2015
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While deleting old photos on FB, I came across this which I posted almost 2 years ago. Perhaps Mr. Paddock was owned by me one too many times, and that's what triggered him. No pun intended. Sorry lue, sometimes, most times, I just can't help myself. :imp:

 

Gay For Longo

*insert Matt Serra meme
Jan 22, 2016
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I haven’t found the points she brings up not interesting but I also don’t think it’s some big conspiracy coverup either. I just think there’s so much that doesn’t make sense as to why (not how but the why) that folks are grasping at straws to milk the news cycle over this.

It didn’t help that the feds and LVMPD publicly make/made assumptions and release inaccurate statements about the investigation. If they don’t know they shouldn’t assume...

So they found a cord that at first didn’t fit but then it takes them a few hours to figure out it did fit one of his phones? Why release that info to begin with?

His “master plan” to escape though he picked the farthest room down the longest hallway to the only way he could escape? Maybe I’m wrong about that one but does anyone know what the closest exit off that floor was in relation to his room? If it’s the elevator or stairwell in the center of the building I doubt he expected to escape this. More like trying to buy himself more time to react should he see the po po rushing down the hall.

He didn’t buys guns for decades. He bought a few handguns. Maybe traded some in when they got dirty because he couldn’t be around the chemicals used to clean guns. Much like the car oil change story, if it required work or if he was already at the store, he would trade it in and get a new one. But he wasn’t collecting an arsenal of AR’s for decades. He started that in October 2016.

I think they finally corrected the assumption he was working with someone but that assumption caused a shitstorm online.

It will be very difficult but we may have to live with the idea that he took his motive with him. That’s a hard pill to swallow since we’re trying to find closure with this too and so are the families.


Lately we’ve been spending time as a family trying to work with the feds and LVMPD. We answered a huge list of questions for them to try and developed a psychological profile on him. I’m not sure how much of it will lead them to anything though. People now know pretty much how that guy lived day in and day out for the past 15-20 years. What’s terrifying is that he never gave an iota of a clue to anyone that he was thinking these things. We do struggle with that one a bit. I mean how far fucked in your mental hell do you have to be where you can’t call your own brother to say, “Hey, this is weird but I have the urge to massacre people.” Or mention anything about buying an AR or something like that?

Sorry we’re still trying to grasp at our own straws to make sense of this.
Apparently the door to go downstairs was 3 feet from his room

I agree about grasping at straws
Somebody did an interview with the chick from belaggio so I sent a msg saying that I think she's off on this one
People did not like that lol
I spent the next 30-45 minutes trying to explain to these people that without evidence, her story can not be proved
That nowhere in either video (most had only seen 1) she filmed was there any damage
I sent the 2nd video and they said the women says there's new glass
So I asked if she was so concerned about finding proof and her husband was in the military for 23 years, why not go and film the holes or any other damage that should be there if her story is true
They basically gave up after that and just said that they don't think she'd lie, I explained that Im not necessarily saying she thinks she' lying, she most likely believes her story but no evidence means no proof
Then they just said the marine wouldn't lie and that was good enough for them
I told them they are allowing bias to cloud logic but surprising the conversation actually stayed pretty respectful through which was a shock
 

Gay For Longo

*insert Matt Serra meme
Jan 22, 2016
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I should also add that that exit was barricaded apparently so I don't think he planned to leave that way
 

Gay For Longo

*insert Matt Serra meme
Jan 22, 2016
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I haven’t found the points she brings up not interesting but I also don’t think it’s some big conspiracy coverup either. I just think there’s so much that doesn’t make sense as to why (not how but the why) that folks are grasping at straws to milk the news cycle over this.

It didn’t help that the feds and LVMPD publicly make/made assumptions and release inaccurate statements about the investigation. If they don’t know they shouldn’t assume...

So they found a cord that at first didn’t fit but then it takes them a few hours to figure out it did fit one of his phones? Why release that info to begin with?

His “master plan” to escape though he picked the farthest room down the longest hallway to the only way he could escape? Maybe I’m wrong about that one but does anyone know what the closest exit off that floor was in relation to his room? If it’s the elevator or stairwell in the center of the building I doubt he expected to escape this. More like trying to buy himself more time to react should he see the po po rushing down the hall.

He didn’t buys guns for decades. He bought a few handguns. Maybe traded some in when they got dirty because he couldn’t be around the chemicals used to clean guns. Much like the car oil change story, if it required work or if he was already at the store, he would trade it in and get a new one. But he wasn’t collecting an arsenal of AR’s for decades. He started that in October 2016.

I think they finally corrected the assumption he was working with someone but that assumption caused a shitstorm online.

It will be very difficult but we may have to live with the idea that he took his motive with him. That’s a hard pill to swallow since we’re trying to find closure with this too and so are the families.


Lately we’ve been spending time as a family trying to work with the feds and LVMPD. We answered a huge list of questions for them to try and developed a psychological profile on him. I’m not sure how much of it will lead them to anything though. People now know pretty much how that guy lived day in and day out for the past 15-20 years. What’s terrifying is that he never gave an iota of a clue to anyone that he was thinking these things. We do struggle with that one a bit. I mean how far fucked in your mental hell do you have to be where you can’t call your own brother to say, “Hey, this is weird but I have the urge to massacre people.” Or mention anything about buying an AR or something like that?

Sorry we’re still trying to grasp at our own straws to make sense of this.
For the last part... it's not surprising for anybody with mental health problems
I deal with depression on a daily basis and it can be hell but honestly you feel safer keeping everything negative to yourself, I don't tell people shit but there isn't a day that goes by that I don't think about killing myself at least once
My family didn't know I felt as bad as I did for years until I tried to kill myself a couple times and that' when they made me go and see some help
I know I'm not going to do it now after learning to control myself but it really is hell in those moments and nobody knows
 

Mix6APlix

The more you cry, the less I care.
Oct 20, 2015
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It would be better if anyone could believe a single word. But with his track record...Noone with an active brain cell can.
 

Gay For Longo

*insert Matt Serra meme
Jan 22, 2016
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It would be better if anyone could believe a single word. But with his track record...Noone with an active brain cell can.
I can't argue that one, we all know he lies constantly but don't see a need to lie here

They host the people (hopefully give them a shout out as well) and they look amazing doing it
This card wasn't going to be a sellout anyways so it truly is a win-win
 

lueVelvet

WHERT DA FERCK?
Aug 29, 2015
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The scary part about that is he was the chill one in the family. I mean he was a hermit but that wouldn’t lead us to confront him to seek help for that. I guess what I’m getting at is, if Stephen has the profile for a mass murdered then we need to start committing a lot of people. He’s like Dana but doesn’t run a company. He’s like trump but doesn’t need golden toilets. He was just a guy living his life until September or October of last year where something changed for the worse.

Anyway, everything from this point on is redundant. I believe everyone knows almost everything about that guy outside of actually knowing him and I’m not sure we’ll get a definitive motive here. :-/