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This is a clear example of Hillary Clinton thinking she is above the law. Let's find comparable times where Trump has acted above the law and compare their implications...

INVESTIGATION: Hillary Sent Dozens Of Emails On Her BlackBerry From Russia And China, Raising Risk Profile

Hillary Clinton sent at least three dozen emails during seven different trips to China, Vietnam and Russia as secretary of state, a Daily Caller investigation reveals.

Communicating through a personal email account, which Clinton had synced up to a private email server and a non-government-issued BlackBerry, put the Democratic presidential candidate’s communications at risk, especially in nations with robust spy agencies and government-owned telecoms companies like China and Russia, a cyber security specialist tells TheDC.

The risk would have been even greater if Clinton failed to use what’s known as a BlackBerry Enterprise Server, a so-called “middleware” program that encrypts emails and other information, says Stephen Perciballi, a cyber security expert who formerly worked for BlackBerry retailer Softchoice.

If she did not, “it puts her at more risk,” Perciballi told TheDC.

It is unclear how Clinton’s server was configured. The device, which is now in the FBI’s possession, was kept at Clinton’s home in New York during her tenure at State. It was managed by former State Department IT specialist Bryan Pagliano, who worked on Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign.

“Was that server just sitting there wide open, sitting on her Comcast cable connection?” Perciballi asked. “We don’t know, and that’s really the problem.”

INVESTIGATION: Hillary Sent Dozens Of Emails On Her BlackBerry From Russia And China, Raising Risk Profile
 
Lord Vutulaki

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IschKabibble said:
This is a clear example of Hillary Clinton thinking she is above the law. Let's find comparable times where Trump has acted above the law and compare their implications...

INVESTIGATION: Hillary Sent Dozens Of Emails On Her BlackBerry From Russia And China, Raising Risk Profile

Hillary Clinton sent at least three dozen emails during seven different trips to China, Vietnam and Russia as secretary of state, a Daily Caller investigation reveals.

Communicating through a personal email account, which Clinton had synced up to a private email server and a non-government-issued BlackBerry, put the Democratic presidential candidate’s communications at risk, especially in nations with robust spy agencies and government-owned telecoms companies like China and Russia, a cyber security specialist tells TheDC.

The risk would have been even greater if Clinton failed to use what’s known as a BlackBerry Enterprise Server, a so-called “middleware” program that encrypts emails and other information, says Stephen Perciballi, a cyber security expert who formerly worked for BlackBerry retailer Softchoice.

If she did not, “it puts her at more risk,” Perciballi told TheDC.

It is unclear how Clinton’s server was configured. The device, which is now in the FBI’s possession, was kept at Clinton’s home in New York during her tenure at State. It was managed by former State Department IT specialist Bryan Pagliano, who worked on Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign.

“Was that server just sitting there wide open, sitting on her Comcast cable connection?” Perciballi asked. “We don’t know, and that’s really the problem.”

INVESTIGATION: Hillary Sent Dozens Of Emails On Her BlackBerry From Russia And China, Raising Risk Profile
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Blackberries cant be hacked bro.
 
SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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IschKabibble said:
SNIDELY WHIPLASH @SNIDELY WHIPLASH, since we've all answered for how we could possibly entertain a vote for a character like trump, it's your turn to explain how you can entertain a vote for the likes of this:


View: https://twitter.com/Genie115/status/710623228335689728


Don't use a defensive argument. Only positives on Hillary. How the fuck could you actually vote for this lady if she's the Democratic nominee?
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Nobody ever gave answers about anything, just random excuses for bad behavior. I won't be doing that. Also as I said, I'm pretty done here. There is no understanding in this thread, we're not doing anything but arguing excuses. This is 15 pages of the same thing it will be at page 25. I'm completely disappointed with this, this thread could be anywhere else. You guys enjoy.
 
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IschKabibble said:
We'd have to give him a chance to fulfill those promises before we call him a lame duck president. I'm sure we could find example of every president that's taken office in my lifetime who campaigned on something they didn't follow through on.
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I agree. Hence my expectation of elected leaders not to follow through on promises made. All I was saying is that there's a difference between "I'm going to get tough on crime with stiffer sentences and more police out on patrol" and "I'm going to get tough on crime, by being tough on crime"
 
Lord Vutulaki

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SNIDELY WHIPLASH said:
Nobody ever gave answers about anything, just random excuses for bad behavior. I won't be doing that. Also as I said, I'm pretty done here. There is no understanding in this thread, we're not doing anything but arguing excuses. This is 15 pages of the same thing it will be at page 25. I'm completely disappointed with this, this thread could be anywhere else. You guys enjoy.
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Nah you need to stick around to balance things up IMHO
 
SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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IschKabibble said:
SNIDELY WHIPLASH @SNIDELY WHIPLASH, I hope you'll reconsider. It's always good to have a solid voice of reason around to provide the alternative viewpoint.
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I'll give one last answer because you asked, although I don't think you believe I'm reasonable or an alternative viewpoint, I think you view me as an opponent.

Presented with one point your answer was 'he could've been sued'.

Presented with another point your answer was: 'Wallstreet collapse was not causing racial divide in our country'

Should've know then we were playing teams and trying to be rightfighters instead of trying to figure out where people's heads were at. Nothing is more emotional than spending time spinning excuses for bad behavior instead of being real about it.

I could do this pretty much anywhere, endless pages of points nobody is really listening to that devolves into passive aggressiveness and stupid loose alliances of posters & mods bagging on each other.

Maybe people didn't realize that I was completely serious when I said I didn't want to come here and do this. It's about peace of mind. I'm not here to be somebody's fictional liberal enemy. I don't have time for it.
 
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SNIDELY WHIPLASH @SNIDELY WHIPLASH, remember I was on your "team" prior to Tuesday. ;)

If you don't have time, that's fair too. But I assure you I have many better things to do in my day than argue over two politicians that, in all honestly, I won't waste the time to go out and vote for. I'd rather this thread just be the place we can discuss the absurdity of what's going on instead of continued heated argument.

The only reason I created this thread in the first place was a partial joke to move on past the Bernie thread. Because I no longer believe Bernie Sanders will be the 45th US President. :(
 
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Holy shit. Props to this chick for taking it all the way. If you're going to fight for what you believe in, fight for what you believe in.

 
IschKabibble

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Might not be smoothing sailing for Trump. He's still got a heavy opposition.

Ron Paul: I couldn’t support Donald Trump as nominee

Former Texas Rep. Ron Paul said Friday he couldn’t support GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump if Mr. Trump wins the party’s nomination, saying Mr. Trump’s views on the scope of executive authority could surpass those of President Obama.

“No, I couldn’t do that,” Mr. Paul said on Fox Business Network when asked if he would support Mr. Trump, should the billionaire businessman win the GOP nomination. “He’s [the] opposite of a libertarian.”

Mr. Paul, a three-time presidential candidate, said on foreign policy, Mr. Trump probably wouldn’t be that much different than former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, the Democratic front-runner.

“I think the die-hard neoconservatives would not be that extremely unhappy with Hillary,” Mr. Paul said.

www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/18/ron-paul-i-couldnt-support-donald-trump-nominee/
 
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Nah its a lot more than the population of my city but compared with your overall population do they make a significant impact to your social, cultural and economic bottom lines?

I wasnt aware that central americans are using Mexico as an entry point, I had heard Syrians were trying to come via the Mexican border during the height of the ISIS media campaign (ISIS is a problem but the media has lost interest for now) which I found funny.
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Social? Cultural? Economics?
Absolutely. And a migration is traditionally very much formed along the border states, though in the last decade it has pushed deeper and deeper into the South.

Now let me be clear. I'm from Texas. It is the crossroads of the South to the West. We were literally part of Mexico at one point. Partly white partly Hispanic. It's very normal here. We embrace it. We celebrate it.

I'm going to talk about some of the challenges, but I'm writing this as I sit less than 5 miles from the Mexican border at the moment. I don't mean the negatives as pejoratives. I chose to be here because I enjoy the culture. I often work in a clinic that does tons of care for Spanish patients many of which are illegally here from what Guatemala and other country South of the Border. I think it's right to take care of other people as a humanitarian cause. but I admit that many shouldn't even be here.

Cultural isn't so much a big deal if you're in San Antonio. But I did some temporary work in a small town not too long ago in which the local chicken factory have obviously decided to start picking up a ton of illegal workers. Overnight this entire mostly White rural town was largely Hispanic. The hospitals the schools and Government systems were all hugely strained due to an influx of uninsured non English-speaking people.

If you go to the valley of Texas you'll find large swathes of area where the children don't speak proper English or proper Spanish. They have no path into the middle class and culturally there's no emphasis on that sort of drive (I'm talkinngt the valley, not Hispanic Texans). Teen pregnancies are off the charts and schools can't fix the situation when the kids can't be taught in either language. Supplies of quality teachers are limited by the demands of the language, etc.

The benefit of migrant labor is that people like me with white collar jobs get their house done for cheap their food cost less. None of this affects me negatively in the short-term. I've always wondered what poor black America thinks about it. In My estimation illegal immigration is an economic problem for the poor and solution for the rich.

The news is unhappy if somebody dares mention that people come here to have their babies so they can stay. I can't tell you the number of babies I've delivered to mothers who just happen to be visiting their usa family at pregnancy month number 8. When asked about when theylle return to Mexico they hem and haw in spanish. "Oh you'll be visiitng for a while" I give them an out from being put on the spot.

So again as you and I have talked before I'm probably more liberal on immigration than many others.

But you can't ignore the significant challenges that come with bringing in large groups of people that don't share your language and require huge amounts of Social Services.
 
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Splinty said:
Social? Cultural? Economics?
Absolutely. And a migration is traditionally very much formed along the border states, though in the last decade it has pushed deeper and deeper into the South.

Now let me be clear. I'm from Texas. It is the crossroads of the South to the West. We were literally part of Mexico at one point. Partly white partly Hispanic. It's very normal here. We embrace it. We celebrate it.

I'm going to talk about some of the challenges, but I'm writing this as I sit less than 5 miles from the Mexican border at the moment. I don't mean the negatives as pejoratives. I chose to be here because I enjoy the culture. I often work in a clinic that does tons of care for Spanish patients many of which are illegally here from what Guatemala and other country South of the Border. I think it's right to take care of other people as a humanitarian cause. but I admit that many shouldn't even be here.

Cultural isn't so much a big deal if you're in San Antonio. But I did some temporary work in a small town not too long ago in which the local chicken factory have obviously decided to start picking up a ton of illegal workers. Overnight this entire mostly White rural town was largely Hispanic. The hospitals the schools and Government systems were all hugely strained due to an influx of uninsured non English-speaking people.

If you go to the valley of Texas you'll find large swathes of area where the children don't speak proper English or proper Spanish. They have no path into the middle class and culturally there's no emphasis on that sort of drive (I'm talkinngt the valley, not Hispanic Texans). Teen pregnancies are off the charts and schools can't fix the situation when the kids can't be taught in either language. Supplies of quality teachers are limited by the demands of the language, etc.

The benefit of migrant labor is that people like me with white collar jobs get their house done for cheap their food cost less. None of this affects me negatively in the short-term. I've always wondered what poor black America thinks about it. In My estimation illegal immigration is an economic problem for the poor and solution for the rich.

The news is unhappy if somebody dares mention that people come here to have their babies so they can stay. I can't tell you the number of babies I've delivered to mothers who just happen to be visiting their usa family at pregnancy month number 8. When asked about when theylle return to Mexico they hem and haw in spanish. "Oh you'll be visiitng for a while" I give them an out from being put on the spot.

So again as you and I have talked before I'm probably more liberal on immigration than many others.

But you can't ignore the significant challenges that come with bringing in large groups of people that don't share your language and require huge amounts of Social Services.
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Very interesting insights. Do you see any positives? Also what is the relationship between American Hispanics and their illegal cousins like?

Ive actually read some out there shit about blacks being of "no use" to the "man" anymore so the powers are bringing in illegals to push blacks out of the blue collar space which was traditionally black folks path to the middle class as you say.

That was from a CT site so taken with a grain of salt.

We had a problem with illegal New Zealanders here for years (my people too but were too small in numbers to count ). The best remedy in our experience was no welfare for the first 2 years which meant that they either got their paperwork sorted and worked or fucked off back to hobbit land.
 
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$400,000 annual salary, along with a $50,000 annual expense account, a $100,000 nontaxable travel account, and $19,000 for entertainment.

$569,000 fuck doing that job for that shit coin, I know guys on $200,000USD here in my industry who go home at lunch every Friday lol
 
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Vutulaki said:
$400,000 annual salary, along with a $50,000 annual expense account, a $100,000 nontaxable travel account, and $19,000 for entertainment.

$569,000 fuck doing that job for that shit coin, I know guys on $200,000USD here in my industry who go home at lunch every Friday lol
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I don't envy the president that's for sure.
 
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