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Disciplined Galt

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I think it's important to know that Donald Trump will not be fathering a child with his maid.
Trump is raised old school with solid values. Some will say he's a coward for not being engaged in the American war in Vietnam. Yet Mohammed Ali is proclaimed a hero for the same thing.
 

jason73

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so trump got pissed on by a russian hooker.bill clinton fucked a fat chick with a cigar and blew a load on her dress and he is still everyones favorite president
 

IschKabibble

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What the heck does WikiLeaks have to do with this? Are they his watchdogs now?
How fucking weird.
They're an advocate for the truth. Remember, Assange has so much more dirt that hasn't been released. Trump is the beneficiary by default.

 

Qat

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They're an advocate for the truth. Remember, Assange has so much more dirt that hasn't been released. Trump is the beneficiary by default.

All you posted before was a tweet saying 'look what this guy close to Trump tweeted', that really has little to nothing to do with anything WL is supposed to be doing. Might as well retweet a Trump-tweet on Obama's birth certificate or something. It looks weird.
They are taking a stand outside of what their 'function' is. Assange should take his personal account for this imo.
 

IschKabibble

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All you posted before was a tweet saying 'look what this guy close to Trump tweeted', that really has little to nothing to do with anything WL is supposed to be doing. Might as well retweet a Trump-tweet on Obama's birth certificate or something. It looks weird.
They are taking a stand outside of what their 'function' is. Assange should take his personal account for this imo.
They're quoting a guy who's directly refuting the latest leak. And using the opportunity to gloat.


View: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/819037478627770368
 

Qat

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They're quoting a guy who's directly refuting the latest leak. And using the opportunity to gloat.
Precisely, and they shouldn't imo.
Their reputation should speak for themselves, trying / having to build it up, actually lessens it somewhat. Be the quiet impervious machine you can be.

And I'm not sure what they mean with bogus. Is the report something the journalist made up? Or is it something that somebody made up and was not used by officials?
If not, and it's the content that is bogus, then why attack buzzfeed? In this case, buzzfeed would just have done the same WikiLeaks would have done, leaking a document made / used by officials. That's it.
WikiLeaks isn't responsible for the content of their leaks either. So, this confuses me. What about this do they call bogus?

They write here 'we do not endorse the publication'. So, it should not have been published? They wouldn't have published it? Because its not the real report, has to be the reason then, right? But that does not fit together with your image. Confusing!

And basing your rep on tweets of third persons is pretty stupid too. They might be correct here, but sooner or later they will be wrong and bank on "the fall guy", at which point, it all crumbles. I see WL as an important tool, but not if they keep meddling in such issues. Just do your jobs and leave the outside / commentary stuff to something or someone else, or do it privately.
Showing bias always opens you up to attack. They should have none.
 

IschKabibble

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Trump's first press conference since winning the election starts in just under 45 minutes from now. Gonna be a good one.
 

Qat

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So what is it now, is it the content that is bogus or was it never really an official report?
 

Wintermute

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Here's a summary of the allegations in this report:

8+ years of communication between him and Kremlin, and 5+ year relationship of cultivating/supporting/assisting Trump by Russia.

They offered him real estate deals IN RUSSIA to further ensnare him, but he declined.

Russia has dirt on Trump hiring Russian prostitutes give golden showers to each other while he watched, supposedly in the room that was bugged with mics and cameras to record the event.

Several users mentioned that we should shift focus away from this, funny as the allegation may be, towards what really matters in this story. The allegations of bribery/blackmail/collusion with a hostile power are what have real teeth here, and what would be most damning claims if proven true. If anyone asks, I would describe those as the meat of the story in order to keep it serious instead of opening with a pee joke or something. But this is just their opinion, and I tend to agree.

Detailed claims of bilateral intelligence sharing back and forth between Trump and Putin. Trump had DNC moles and used US as well as foreign hackers. Trump got info on his opponents, Putin got info on Russian oligarchs + families living in US.

They used the pension system that Russian diplomats used to transfer information back and forth to/from each other as well. It mentions tens of thousands of dollars were sent in addition to the money.

Russia's main goal appears to be driving wedges to cause divisions in the West. They aided Jill Stein, Carter Page and Michael Flynn (the latter two being members of Trump's team) in doing so.

Main goal of DNC emails appeared to be swinging Sanders voters to Trump.

Russia and Trump had a mutual agreement on the DNC hack. Russia released the emails to Wikileaks in return for Trump removing mention of Russian invasion of Crimea in favor of talking about NATO financial commitments in Eastern Europe and the Baltics. Putin wanted people to stop talking Ukraine while also undermining NATO.

Trump's most damning financial commitments are actually in China and other emerging markets. He's paid large bribes and kickbacks there that would've destroyed his campaign if made public.

Hilariously, when Trump said he had few Russian financial investments, that was true, but he has actively sought them out only to be denied. He apparently settled for extensive sexual favors there instead

Trump lawyer Cohen had clandestine meeting with Kremlin operatives in August, held in Prague to try to make it seem less suspicious.

Ukrainian President that Putin installed confided to Putin he DID provide ex-campaign manager Manafort w/ kickbacks that were previously reported. Left no paper trail.

Russia pissed this has gotten so much media coverage. They hoped to push for improved Russian-US relationships regardless of who was elected. Ancillary goal with Clinton was to drive her positions further from Obama's in event she won - they're happy both candidates were anti-TPP because they viewed that as bad for them.

Trump has bribed Russian business interests but worked diligently to obfuscate and eliminate paper trail. Also engaged in Russian sex parties but has likewise bribed or coerced witnesses to be silent. They do believe a particular Russian businessman was intricately linked to Trump would know details.

Manafort/Page/Cohen all highly compromised. They/Trump were apparently offered up to 19% stake in Russian STATE-OWNED oil company Rosneft by its president if they could successfully get Western Russian sanctions lifted. Page expressed interest in this deal, saying sanctions would be lifted.

Once the sh*t started to hit the fan, Cohen was heavily involved in trying to cover up the relationship between Carter/Manafort/himself and Russia.

Mentions that the Trump team AND Russia both paid Romanian hackers to help sabotage Democrats.

Overall goal of electing Trump was to destabilize Western and world order in Russia's favor since he was anti-establishment and so divisive.
 

Hauler

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Holy shit at that press conference. It's going to be an interesting 4 years.
 

Hauler

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LMAO @ him shunning CNN and calling them fake news. It certainly sounds like they ran with a report that was incorrect.

But there's a fine line between calling the media on their bullshit and driving the narrative on what they can report on.
 

Hauler

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CNN apparently went live to explain how they are a credible news organization.

Buckle up folks, it's gonna be a bumpy ride!