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'White House Budget Director Mick Mulvaney threw cold water on the promise that “everybody” would get health insurance under GOP legislation ― a promise that was made by none other than President Donald Trump himself.


“We don’t have universal ― the only way to have universal care, if you stop to think about it, is to force people to buy it under penalty of law,” Mulvaney said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.”

The expectation of everyone in the nation getting health insurance if Trump took office came from promises he himself made.

“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in January. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”

In 2015, Trump similarly told CBS’s “60 Minutes,” “Everybody’s got to be covered.”

But the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office made clear in its recent analysis that there’s no way everyone will get insurance under the GOP’s American Health Care Act. Instead, 24 million people stand to lose coverage over the next decade.'


White House Admits Trump 'Insurance For Everybody' Guarantee Isn't Going To Happen | The Huffington Post

Pretty sure I have healthcare without being threatened to buy it under penalty of law.
 
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This thread was kinda taken over by detractors!
Where is the Splinty @Splinty?

Well, I read about the budget-proposal too. I was surprised NASA was on the cut-list as well, didn't he have big plans there? In fact, that was one of the few things I saw as positive, hmm.
But the list in itself read pretty much: military state.
 
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This thread was kinda taken over by detractors!
Where is the Splinty @Splinty?

Well, I read about the budget-proposal too. I was surprised NASA was on the cut-list as well, didn't he have big plans there? In fact, that was one of the few things I saw as positive, hmm.
But the list in itself read pretty much: military state.
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But Hilary!
 
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Qat said:
This thread was kinda taken over by detractors!
Where is the Splinty @Splinty?

Well, I read about the budget-proposal too. I was surprised NASA was on the cut-list as well, didn't he have big plans there? In fact, that was one of the few things I saw as positive, hmm.
But the list in itself read pretty much: military state.
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I noticed that. I usually don't watch this thread, to avoid being a Debbie downer in this the eyes of Trump supports, since it's supposed to be a pro Trump thread.

But occasionally I'll post something, so it subs me. And then I watch yall poke at the Trump fans lol. Kinda funny

Yall are relentless :)
 
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Trump asks Congress for billions to build border wall
President Donald Trump will ask Congress for $4.1 billion to start construction on a massive wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, another significant step toward carrying out his signature – and most controversial – campaign promise.

The money is part of a $44 billion request for the Department of Homeland Security that will be used to hire 1,500 new immigration agents, expanded detention capacity. Millions more will be directed to the Department of Justice to hire more immigration judges, U.S. Marshals and border enofrcement prosecutors.

“Our southern border will be protected always. It will have the wall. Drugs will stop pouring in and poisoning our youth, and that will happen very, very soon,” Trump said during a campaign-style rally in Nashville, Tennessee, Wednesday night.

The Department of Homeland Security was one of the few government departments where Trump’s budget proposes an increase.
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Kellyanne Conway Tries To Distance Donald Trump From Surrogates Tied To Russia
Kellyanne Conway claims President Donald Trump doesn’t know and didn’t work with two of his 2016 presidential campaign advisers linked to Russia. The assertion follows FBI Director James Comey’s confirmation Monday that that the bureau is investigating ties between Trump’s associates and the Kremlin.

Trump’s counselor said Tuesday that Carter Page, a former foreign policy adviser for the campaign, and J.D. Gordon, a former national security adviser for the campaign, were little more than “fringe players.”

“In the case of Mr. Page, Mr. Gordon, some others, they really have very attenuated contacts to the campaign that I managed for the last three months,” Conway said on “Fox & Friends” Tuesday.

“I have spoken directly to the president and other senior officials about this. He doesn’t know these gentlemen. He didn’t work with them.”
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Ivanka Trump set to get West Wing office as role expands
Ivanka Trump, who moved to Washington saying she would play no formal role in her father’s administration, is now officially setting up shop in the White House.

The powerful first daughter has secured her own office on the West Wing’s second floor — a space next to senior adviser Dina Powell, who was recently promoted to a position on the National Security Council. She is also in the process of obtaining a security clearance and is set to receive government-issued communications devices this week.
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Genuine question(s) for any Trumpsters that still visit the thread, but what does the Military need an extra $60billion for? What was it not good enough at? What did it need more of? And why could it not reallocate funds from other areas within it's own budget to cover it?
 
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Zeph said:
Genuine question(s) for any Trumpsters that still visit the thread, but what does the Military need an extra $60billion for? What was it not good enough at? What did it need more of? And why could it not reallocate funds from other areas within it's own budget to cover it?
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One way to look at it is a giant fookin pissng contest that we are already going way overboard

Another is that it's a form socialism. They can't reduce the industry bc of how many people would have to find new jobs

Bill Maher said something reasonable in his last episode. We DO need to work on our nuclear subs, bc of ISIS... OK I dunno. I'll have to get back to ya on that one


Our military spending pisses me off to no end
 
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Trump immigration policies kill work visas for specialized Canadian nurses

Canadian nurses working at Michigan hospitals were shocked last week when border security officers stopped them from entering the U.S. because of changes to their working visas under new immigration policies.

Staff at Detroit's Henry Ford Hospital heard reports of nurses unable to renew their working visas. Last week, a new Canadian hire at Henry Ford tried to go to work, but was turned away at the Windsor-Detroit border.

She was told advanced practice nurses and nurse anesthetists no longer qualify for the working visas because of policy changes under U.S. President Donald Trump.

"We really question the motives," said immigration lawyer Marc Topoleski, whose firm is retained by the hospital. "All of the immigration executive orders and all the things being rolled out have been focused on national security first, and this is clearly not an issue of national security whatsoever."

'Livelihoods are at stake'
Only advanced practice nurses and nurse anesthetists are being rejected. All Canadian nurses working in the U.S. have non-immigrant NAFTA professional (TN) visas.

An estimated 30,000 to 40,000 Canadians work in the U.S with TN visas, which allow experts in certain fields — like economics and science — a fast track, provided they have a job offer.

Henry Ford Hospital alone has hundreds of Canadians on staff, with about 25 advanced practice nurses or nurse anesthetists with TN visas.

"Some of these things are surprising," said Patrick Irwin, vice-president human resources at Henry Ford Hospital. "We have always been able to qualify these nurses under the TN category."

CBC News contacted U.S. Customs and Border Protection for an interview, but has yet to get a response.

Hospital officials said they're doing everything they can to resolve this issue.

"Their livelihood is at stake," Topoleski said. "They don't know why this is happening, they don't understand why it's happening. All they've been doing is just coming here and helping Americans get better by providing patient care."

Michigan's Council of Nurse Practitioners is trying to make their members aware of possible problems at the border, according to executive director Olivia McLaughlin.

"It's obviously concerning for a number of reasons," she said. "This seems like a recent opinion that is affecting the renewals."

'It just makes absolutely no sense'
The nurses have been advised they need to apply for H1B visa status, which is a separate category under NAFTA for more specialized employment. But those applications can cost between $3,000 and $4,000 depending on the applicant, according to Topoleski.

Other policy changes recently announced by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services will suspend a fast-track program for processing H1B applications as of April 3.

Standard application processes for work visas could then take six months or more, said Topoleski, who worries long wait times could hurt hospitals that are in desperate need of specialty nurses.

"These specialty nurses are hard to find. There's more positions than there are people available," Topoleski said. "They're coming here to help our patients. I just don't understand what the policy goal is by doing something like this, it just makes absolutely no sense."
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Kaladin Stormblessed said:
Another is that it's a form socialism. They can't reduce the industry bc of how many people would have to find new jobs
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While that's true to an extent, that money could be spent, and was being spent, on different programs that achieved similar results.
Bill Maher said something reasonable in his last episode. We DO need to work on our nuclear subs, bc of ISIS... OK I dunno. I'll have to get back to ya on that one
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There are some programs that will need to be updated regardless of who the enemies are at the time, because ageing military equipment actually costs more to maintain as their lifetime continues due to outdated technology and having to specifically manufacture spare parts which aren't made anymore.
 
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Zeph said:
While that's true to an extent, that money could be spent, and was being spent, on different programs that achieved similar results.
There are some programs that will need to be updated regardless of who the enemies are at the time, because ageing military equipment actually costs more to maintain as their lifetime continues due to outdated technology and having to specifically manufacture spare parts which aren't made anymore.
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I didn't even realize it was this thread. I don't like being a Debbie downer here. Whoopsies. But before I unwatchable again....

F**k Trump. And sc**t pr**t even harder!
 
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