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kaladin stormblessed

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Trump was impeached over Russian collusion. An audible had to be called because that case fell apart. It's pretty well documented that come Hell or high water, they were impeaching Trump. I believe Pelosi was quoted as saying "If we don't get him for this we'll find something else." But I could have been fake newsed on that.
i think she did say that. shes not the sharpest tool in the shed

it may have been taken out of context (maybe she was saying that they already had multiple investigations to pursue, but that itd be wise to start with collusion instead of muddying the waters)

but thanks for the reminder. i could see why the actual first impechment may feel iky

regardless the, i stand with the impeachment based off of what he did

for instance, if biden told ukraine he woukd withhomd promised funds/goods to ukraine unless they open an investigation into trump right now, biden should be impeached too
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
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for instance, if biden told ukraine he woukd withhomd promised funds/goods to ukraine unless they open an investigation into trump right now, biden should be impeached too
What if instead of an investigation the Ukraine gave his son a job that he was unqualified for and paid a fuckton of money right around the time the U.S. was backing them against the Ruskies?
 

kaladin stormblessed

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I think there's an irony to Trump being impeached for a quid pro quo, when he was trying to have what was very clearly a quid pro quo investigated.
irony is one way of saying it

stupidty is another

the dude doesnt care to root out corruption. he simply did corruption of his own to try to take down the guy who he feared would best him in 2020

if he was an honest actor, then he couldve made a differencr by calling out all the legalized forms of corruption that exist

EDIT: but he cant call out the legalized corruption since he wss exploiting the same shit unfortunately
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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irony is one way of saying it

stupidty is another

the dude doesnt care to root out corruption. he simply did corruption of his own to try to take down the guy who he feared would best him in 2020

if he was an honest actor, then he couldve made a differencr by calling out all the legalized forms of corruption that exist
Oh, I'm not saying he was doing it out of any sense of justice. I'm pointing out that impeaching him for doing it is a cover up for all practical purposes.
 

Freeloading Rusty

Here comes Rover, sniffin’ at your ass
Jan 11, 2016
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German inflation hits fresh 13-yr high in August

Fuckin Biden!
 

kaladin stormblessed

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no. but thats for the taliban to figure out. not us.

take this with a grain of salt, but according to wikipedia, 47,000 civilians have died in the war in afghanistan

not sure how many america killed. but we are notorious for bombing civilians

i guess a major difference betweeb myself and some is that i can sympathize with foreigners who look at america troops in their countries as terrorists becuase thats how id view the troops of any other nation inside america
as we probably should have expected, our drone strike to kill ISIS killed women and around 9 children

yay america
 

kaladin stormblessed

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Instead of trying to get these guys out of politics, we need to find a way that they never get in. We are electing this mess.
we need to reverse citizens united so that corporations cant buy off politicians. but the current surpreme court was appointed to protrect corpotations over people, so that would never happen

an alternative idea which i dont know too much about is the public financing of election

(everyone is allocated a hundred political bucks, so to say. or five hundred. and then people choose whose campaign to give that money to)

in theory, it would enable people to be heard that dont have the corrupt establishment backing of pelosi, mcconnel, cnn, msnbc, and fox

im not quite sure how the math works out tho. but i recall being convinced in the past that it was a good start
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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we need to reverse citizens united so that corporations cant buy off politicians. but the current surpreme court was appointed to protrect corpotations over people, so that would never happen

an alternative idea which i dont know too much about is the public financing of election

(everyone is allocated a hundred political bucks, so to say. or five hundred. and then people choose whose campaign to give that money to)

in theory, it would enable people to be heard that dont have the corrupt establishment backing of pelosi, mcconnel, cnn, msnbc, and fox

im not quite sure how the math works out tho. but i recall being convinced in the past that it was a good start
Corporations shouldn't be allowed to donate to a campaign.
Super PACs should be illegal
Fuck the "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" bullshit.

The system is so broke it's impossible to list all the problems.