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MMAHAWK

Real Gs come from California.America Muthafucker
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I disagree. It’s a huge factor in people not wanting to become teachers right now. Low pay, while dealing with 40+ kids(up to 200 if you’re teaching middle or high school), then having to find a summer job because you don’t make enough teaching kids doesn’t sound appealing.
They also get a pension
In California average $82K with masters you’re at about $110k and full benefits
This is their work calendar
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BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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I disagree. It’s a huge factor in people not wanting to become teachers right now. Low pay, while dealing with 40+ kids(up to 200 if you’re teaching middle or high school), then having to find a summer job because you don’t make enough teaching kids doesn’t sound appealing.
I know a bunch of people trying to be teachers who can't get work because the ones with seniority won't retire. To be honest, your post of the first I've ever heard of the idea of there being a teacher shortage.
 

John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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I think the equivalent of $73k/yr is pretty damn solid. They get their summers off. 3 months. That needs to be factored into the salary.
I know multiple teachers, and not a single one of them gets a month-long holiday just because their students do. Also, they all work a ton of extra hours during the school year. Marking homework, making lesson plans, dealing with parent's bullshit, school events outside regular hours, it never ends.

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John Lee Pettimore

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The only teacher I know who gets an actual long holiday that I'm jealous of, is a stats professor at university. But he also pulls a month of 60-70 hour weeks a couple of times a year during exam time.

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MMAHAWK

Real Gs come from California.America Muthafucker
Feb 5, 2015
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Yes, everybody goes on vacations. That is not the same as every time your students are on holiday, that means that you're on holiday too.

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I work for a school district and have about a dozen friends that are married to teachers. Thanks for letting me know how teachers are in California. Maybe your teachers care.
It’s also much longer than a month. Did you see the calendar I posted? That is a real work calendar for the teachers on my district.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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I work for a school district and have about a dozen friends that are married to teachers. Thanks for letting me know how teachers are in California. Maybe your teachers care.
Nobody cares, man. I'm surrounded by a bunch of paramedics, you think they care about everybody?

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John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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You work with them and I don’t try and tell you how they act because I know one.
Okay, fair enough. Although honestly, I was mostly/initially responding to Hauler's (I believe) comment about teachers only working nine months out of the year. ?

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Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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I know multiple teachers, and not a single one of them gets a month-long holiday just because their students do. Also, they all work a ton of extra hours during the school year. Marking homework, making lesson plans, dealing with parent's bullshit, school events outside regular hours, it never ends.

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Outside of dealing with parent's bullshit it sounds exactly like 95% of regular jobs that people work for 12 months out of the year.

So what do your teachers do when the students are off for 3 months of summer? Or do they go year-round?
 

Hauler

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Okay, fair enough. Although honestly, I was mostly/initially responding to Hauler's (I believe) comment about teachers only working nine months out of the year. ?

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Which here is 100% factual. They don't work in the summer unless they choose to get another job. School is closed. Doors are locked. See ya in September.
 

TheFifthScallop

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Nov 15, 2015
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MMAHAWK

Real Gs come from California.America Muthafucker
Feb 5, 2015
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Okay - do they not prepare for the year to come during at least some of that time?

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My district gives the teachers a 1 paid day. Admin is there for 2 weeks before and many do drop by during that time to drop off materials and set up room.