General Trump's Running Shit Like a Motherfuckin BOSSS

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mysticmac

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Another concern is that pretty much all of what he has done so far this term has been done via executive order with no noticeable follow up to pass some of this through Congress which means this all expires once he leaves office.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Not entirely. Trudeau already reversed his decision to implement a US tariff shortly after meeting Trump he publicly announce strengthening the US/Canadian border, specifically funding stopping the flow of fentanyl, and other things while delaying any tariffs by at least 30 days. I think the tariffs by both countries will not happen and both countries will reach an agreement that both strengthens the border and shutdown a big part of the drug trade as well as illegal immigration. Trump is using tariffs as a bargaining chip. Depending on how well they work with him, tariffs will be set accordingly.
He announced tariffs on steel and aluminum this afternoon. It's 2018 all over again, lol.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Wild @Wild there was a guy on the Daily Show like 20 years ago. Jon Stewart asked him, "Did you really buy a million dollars worth of nickels?" The guy explained to him that each nickel has 7 cents worth of nickel. If the market for nickel continues to grow at a certain point he'll figure out how to melt them down. If that day never comes, he still has his million dollars. It's an investment you can't lose on.

Apparently 1.25 grams of nickel is about 12 cents these days.
 

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Wild @Wild there was a guy on the Daily Show like 20 years ago. Jon Stewart asked him, "Did you really buy a million dollars worth of nickels?" The guy explained to him that each nickel has 7 cents worth of nickel. If the market for nickel continues to grow at a certain point he'll figure out how to melt them down. If that day never comes, he still has his million dollars. It's an investment you can't lose on.

Apparently 1.25 grams of nickel is about 12 cents these days.
We need to get into the nickel mining business.
 

mysticmac

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You can't call off tariffs while also making tariffs.
Yes, you can. You can announce tariffs on certain goods at a certain rate, then change the list of goods and/or the rate i.e. make new tariffs. They also aren't permanent and can change or be removed over time.
 
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BeardOfKnowledge

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Yes, you can. You can announce tariffs on certain goods at a certain rate, then change the list of goods and/or the rate i.e. make new tariffs. They also aren't permanent and can change over time.
Dude, he told Canada less than a week ago "No tariffs" then today, "JK, some tariffs. Lulz". Now he just looks like a fucking welch.
 

mysticmac

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Dude, he told Canada less than a week ago "No tariffs" then today, "JK, some tariffs. Lulz". Now he just looks like a fucking welch.
A) The steel & aluminum tariff was for everyone. Not just Canada.

B) Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anything announcing "no tariffs". He announced delaying his proposal for a 25% tariff.

C) Canada hasn't moved the ball on what Trudeau announced after meeting with him. They agreed to a rather short timeline, and they haven't shown progress. Who knows if they will given Trudeau is leaving meaning the Canadian government is going to change soon. Maybe the next PM won't be receptive to what Trudeau already announced. Trudeau should at least show that he's talking with the upcoming candidates and they are all working together. Granted I don't pay much attention to Canadian politics, so I don't know who is looking to take over.

Border security and immigration are top priorities for Trump, and so is bringing jobs back to America.
 
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Another concern is that pretty much all of what he has done so far this term has been done via executive order with no noticeable follow up to pass some of this through Congress which means this all expires once he leaves office.
Perhaps it's time to nuke the filibuster and start passing all of the reforms with 51 votes in reconciliation bills. IMO this is the way especially if the courts start blocking his executive orders on the USAID and treasury audits, drilling and so forth. Brandon in his last week in office signed an executive order banning drilling on most of the US coastline, some DEM judge has ruled that his executive order cannot be overturned by another executive order. The sabotage from Federal Courts is just getting ridiculous at this point.
 
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mysticmac

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Perhaps it's time to nuke the filibuster and start passing all of the reforms with 51 votes in reconciliation bills. IMO this is the way especially if the courts start blocking his executive orders on the USAID and treasury audits, drilling and so forth.
I mean, that is the way our government was meant to run. Presidents have been leveraging the EO process for many years, and the number of orders signed seems to increase every time there is a new President.

That said, I'm not familiar enough with current federal law to know if there are any laws that concern the oversight of these three (or four) letter federal agencies. AFAIK they are part of the executive branch. In that sense, it make sense for the President to provide oversight. I don't really like that though. I mean just look at how the FBI has been leveraged as a criminal organization for whoever the sitting President is. I'm not saying the whole thing is corrupt and they no longer do any good, but they stop doing blatantly bad things and at least try to only do good things.

Even if a sitting President issues an EO, he should follow up with Congress to write it into law if he thinks it is actually a good move. Of course, unless he wants it to be temporary.

I think Clinton actually thought his gun control bill would be a good move, but even he wanted it to include an expiration date in case it wasn't. The expiration date was past his second term meaning the next sitting president would have to decide whether or not to renew it.
 

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I mean, that is the way our government was meant to run. Presidents have been leveraging the EO process for many years, and the number of orders signed seems to increase every time there is a new President.

That said, I'm not familiar enough with current federal law to know if there are any laws that concern the oversight of these three (or four) letter federal agencies. AFAIK they are part of the executive branch. In that sense, it make sense for the President to provide oversight. I don't really like that though. I mean just look at how the FBI has been leveraged as a criminal organization for whoever the sitting President is. I'm not saying the whole thing is corrupt and they no longer do any good, but they stop doing blatantly bad things and at least try to only do good things.

Even if a sitting President issues an EO, he should follow up with Congress to write it into law if he thinks it is actually a good move. Of course, unless he wants it to be temporary.

I think Clinton actually thought his gun control bill would be a good move, but even he wanted it to include an expiration date in case it wasn't. The expiration date was past his second term meaning the next sitting president would have to decide whether or not to renew it.
If there's one thing we should all understand by now is that there's no bill that would pass through congress cutting funding for anything.
EO is the only play he has on this kind of thing. Just need to hope that future candidates pledge to keep the cut's in place ( not that it will happen or that this is actually going to last ) . But it's better him doing it this than not. It may just bring this to the public attention at least. All the money getting flushed away. That's a very good thing.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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A) The steel & aluminum tariff was for everyone. Not just Canada.

B) Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anything announcing "no tariffs". He announced delaying his proposal for a 25% tariff.
He announced that tariffs against Canada were shelved for 30 days. A tariff for everyone is a tariff for Canada. Dude's a welch.

C) Canada hasn't moved the ball on what Trudeau announced after meeting with him. They agreed to a rather short timeline, and they haven't shown progress
and you're basing this statement on?
 

MountainMedic

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Another concern is that pretty much all of what he has done so far this term has been done via executive order with no noticeable follow up to pass some of this through Congress which means this all expires once he leaves office.
My concern as well. For every EO he should already have someone lined up to introduce associated legislation to firm up the changes.

Otherwise the tit for tat will never end
 

CuddleBug

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My concern as well. For every EO he should already have someone lined up to introduce associated legislation to firm up the changes.

Otherwise the tit for tat will never end
Yes, but another way to look at it is that we as voters get what we deserve collectively if the next guy that gets in removes those things.
 

mysticmac

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He announced that tariffs against Canada were shelved for 30 days. A tariff for everyone is a tariff for Canada. Dude's a welch.



and you're basing this statement on?
He announced his proposed tariff against Canada was delayed 30 days. He later announced a different set of tariffs on everyone.

Nobody made an announcement stating any progress had been made regarding the delay, so I'm basing that off of the lack of information released.

I think you're taking the steel/aluminum tariff too personally. It is against all foreign countries we have been buying from. Clearly, he just wants to US to step up production and employ more people. It wouldn't surprise me if he discussed that with Trudy when they met and they simply agreed not to talk about it until after it was announced given it would also affect other countries.