General Trump's Tariffs go into affect

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kvr28

I am the Greengo
Nov 22, 2015
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Well that's interesting news. I hadn't heard that.

This is one war, tariff, trade or otherwise I can stand to miss.
It was announced right after the address. I was wrong, it's 7.2

 

Chrit

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Aug 13, 2024
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Do they have to be our enemies though. Can't they just be peer or near peer competitors? I mean, who decides these things anyway.
No. They can absolutely be our allies...

You know, if we just turn our backs on all of our actual allies and decide that a dictator prone to attacking sovereign nations is a fine thing to do.
 

megatherium

el rey del mambo
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Jan 15, 2015
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No. They can absolutely be our allies...

You know, if we just turn our backs on all of our actual allies and decide that a dictator prone to attacking sovereign nations is a fine thing to do.
I mean, that's their neighborhood though. Why risk WW3 getting involved in it when there's no potential for victory. All this is doing is costing Ukraine territory and precious lives. And by peer and neer peer competitors I'm referring to China as well, not just Russia. Maybe even China especially. They could have prevented this war by signing the Istanbul Accord in March 2022 with very little in the way of concessions. This whole thing is such a needless tragedy.
 

MountainMedic

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Sep 28, 2017
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Do they have to be our enemies though. Can't they just be peer or near peer competitors? I mean, who decides these things anyway.
Thats what they are currently, our global competition. They don't want a war with us.
China has stated their intent to destroy us, they aren't shy about it.
We need to default on our debt and repatriate all Chinese holdings in the states. It would severely cripple them and slow their global advances.
China wants an economic war while they build an army to crush North America. It baffles me that we continue to do business with them, we shouldn't even allow them in our country.
 

Chrit

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I mean... we may as well cozy up to Putin... seeing as we're becoming a society of oligarchs and then everyone else...

You know... like Russia.

But thats what you voted for.
 

megatherium

el rey del mambo
First 100
Jan 15, 2015
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Thats what they are currently, our global competition. They don't want a war with us.
China has stated their intent to destroy us, they aren't shy about it.
We need to default on our debt and repatriate all Chinese holdings in the states. It would severely cripple them and slow their global advances.
China wants an economic war while they build an army to crush North America. It baffles me that we continue to do business with them, we shouldn't even allow them in our country.
I don't think they want a war with anyone MM, if you look at their history they're not a very warlike people. They are a mercantile civilization. We should never have shipped our industry over to them but we've done it. I don't see how we can reverse that, a trade war would be the ruin of us imvho.
 

MountainMedic

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Sep 28, 2017
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I don't think they want a war with anyone MM, if you look aqt their history they're not a very warlike people. They are a mercantile civilization. We should never have shipped our industry over to them but we've done it. I don't see how we can reverse that, a trade war would be the ruin of us imvho.
Their public position is "we will destroy you without firing a shot"

Why do you think they keep lending us money?

They do this shit all over the globe.
They would have already tried to foreclose but they aren't ready to fight yet. They will be soon.