UFC 195 Condit vs Lawler Live Discussion - 1/2/16

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Zeph

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Also, Robbie is a knockout fighter with devastating power. Condit does not have devastating power but instead, incredibly sharp technique and variety in his attacks. Not everyone is a KO artist so people have to fight to their strengths. Yeah Robbie hits harder but if those don't KO the other guy then what difference does it make when he's outstriking you 2-1? If it was just about who punches harder then we should just be watching two guys stand in front of each other taking turns giving each other haymakers with no defense until one guy falls over.
Effective striking is the criteria. Not who landed the most.
 

TheContinentalOp

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Effective striking is the criteria. Not who landed the most.
I gotchya. In my opinion, Robbie's striking was effective in the 5th round and for the one shot in the second that dropped Condit and gave him top control which he them almost immediately gave up. Other than that, almost all of his shots were brushed off and then answered by much more effective striking from Condit.
 

Res ipsa

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Damn....

Missus said she has loads of tin foil...we


But here we can have at it about stupid decisions without that nasty ban bug..Gonna go make a joint then post some stupid shit in a minute...Need more phone charge...missus is in the pool and after 17 years I still act like a 14 year old.


tell me more....

And i was banned for spamming the board with porn gifs through the full duration of Jurassic World. Most glorious
 

Leigh

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Just watched. Thought maybe Carlos won it. Rds 1 & 4 definite, rd 2 definite for Robbie. Case could be made for Carlos winning both 3 and 5.
 
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Really wanted Robbie to win.

I thought Carlos won....Just my opinion.

Rematch is.... or should be on the cards already.
 

007

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If the fight was scored as single rounds then condit most likely should be champion.

I would say it is arguable however that 2 of the rounds could've been 10-8 to Lawler. Haven't seen the scorecards but Robbie came closest to finishing the fight and whilst Condit's chin made those rounds look closer it makes it incredibly difficult to judge.

You can't have complaints in such a close fight and a split decision was ironically predictable because the mma world is split on who won.

If Condit was the champ and Lawler was the challenger I think there'd be alternate discussion on how Robbie should have the belt. Let's take it for what it is: a tough fight to score and Robbie wasn't in enough trouble to make it feel like an injustice.
 
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If the fight was scored as single rounds then condit most likely should be champion.

I would say it is arguable however that 2 of the rounds could've been 10-8 to Lawler. Haven't seen the scorecards but Robbie came closest to finishing the fight and whilst Condit's chin made those rounds look closer it makes it incredibly difficult to judge.

You can't have complaints in such a close fight and a split decision was ironically predictable because the mma world is split on who won.

If Condit was the champ and Lawler was the challenger I think there'd be alternate discussion on how Robbie should have the belt. Let's take it for what it is: a tough fight to score and Robbie wasn't in enough trouble to make it feel like an injustice.
Great post.
 

lueVelvet

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Such an awesome card all around. Even the decisions (which there were quite a few) were exciting.

Lawler and Condit was a spectacular display of what both men were made of without any shit talk. Pure class from both men. Fight of the year! :p
 

Qat

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If the fight was scored as single rounds then condit most likely should be champion.

I would say it is arguable however that 2 of the rounds could've been 10-8 to Lawler. Haven't seen the scorecards but Robbie came closest to finishing the fight and whilst Condit's chin made those rounds look closer it makes it incredibly difficult to judge.

You can't have complaints in such a close fight and a split decision was ironically predictable because the mma world is split on who won.

If Condit was the champ and Lawler was the challenger I think there'd be alternate discussion on how Robbie should have the belt. Let's take it for what it is: a tough fight to score and Robbie wasn't in enough trouble to make it feel like an injustice.
Robbie was in more trouble than Condit. And I don't see cases for a 10-8 for Lawler. Both were extremely tired at the end, neither was close to being finished.
 

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i dont really care but its implied by me saying AA is a stupid choice then you asking if I want a SN bet, which i agree to. Could it have been spelled out exactly? Sure.
To act like me saying Phooey is silly for cheering for AA would suggest I wanted AA is hilarious.
 

Res ipsa

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Just went back and read pages 46 and 47. Looks like Sex Chicken @Sex Chicken threw out a SN challenge, in which Left Hook Larry @UKTT-God Save the Queen accepted...then you challenged Left Hook Larry @UKTT-God Save the Queen but he didn't confirm.

Hard to keep up, there were so many posts. Am I reading it wrong gents?

He didn't confirm. AA didn't even last long enough. He asked for the bet. I didn't. Do you really think he was asking for Stipe after I clearly laughed at the idea of AA winning?
 

Left Hook Larry

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I was hoping jr. could tell us...

War AA! -Phooey

Stupid choice. -Res
i dont really care but its implied by me saying AA is a stupid choice then you asking if I want a SN bet, which i agree to. Could it have been spelled out exactly? Sure.
To act like me saying Phooey is silly for cheering for AA would suggest I wanted AA is hilarious.
I am not saying you wanted AA. I am saying it's not a clear-cut sn bet. Had a few drinks a got a bit lost. Feel free to rename me if you want I don't mind. I certainly wouldn't rename someone off of that but it's your choice.
 

Left Hook Larry

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He didn't confirm. AA didn't even last long enough. He asked for the bet. I didn't. Do you really think he was asking for Stipe after I clearly laughed at the idea of AA winning?
I had no intention to do an SN bet on AA or Stipe. I picked Stipe in a Paypal bet and won $$ there.