What happened to the UFC only being able to stop a fight for a positive PED test?

[lookoutawhale]

I wonder if the NSAC actually profits off the penalties. Anderson now will lose a certain percentage of his purse but where does it go? Does the UFC simply get the money back or does the athletic commission get it?

because if the NSAC is profiting off the fines, its almost in their interest to make sure the fight goes through and the fighter gets paid so that they can get the cut of the purse instead of cancelling the fight all together.

 

[Ministry of Silly Walks]

I wonder if the NSAC actually profits off the penalties. Anderson now will lose a certain percentage of his purse but where does it go? Does the UFC simply get the money back or does the athletic commission get it?

because if the NSAC is profiting off the fines, its almost in their interest to make sure the fight goes through and the fighter gets paid so that they can get the cut of the purse instead of cancelling the fight all together.

they pay the fine to the nsac, unless it's a fine that the ufc hands down, like jon for his cocaine against the athlete code of conduct.

 

[Priziesthorse]

Here is the director of the lab explaining the testing procedure

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/lab-di...-fight-despite-positive-result-201822876.html

 

[Ministry of Silly Walks]

ok, so once a sample is flagged for something, why don't they look up the number and freeze the fight until the tests are completed? that would stop a lot of these problems.

 

[delightone]

GOAT



Seriously would not be surprised if every single loss he had was to a drug cheat (other than Diaz, Edgar & maybe Pulver), similar to Bisping. I'm not kidding either. MAYBE K1 chubby Machida was not using at the time he fought BJ - but I highly doubt he never has either. Funny how men already in their later years can make such dramatic transformations

Here he is in his UFC career at 205 and 185. I guess he just started training really, REALLY hard

Not like a guy in Anderson Silva's team/circle would ever touch PEDs



Fedor, BJ & Diaz = the real GOATS

Lol is it weird that these pics make me want to do a cycle or two

 

[delightone]

our federal government refuses to agree with the hundreds of studies (some even paid for by them), because they don't like telling people that they lied to us for so long. the states are doing this on their own because they see it as a medicine/ recreational drug with health benefits, and have the facts to prove it. we all know it's much safer than alcohol and cigarettes, so they want to allow people to be able to make the choice for themselves. some states have to many people that still cling to the "drugs are bad m'kay", and refuse to look at any studies, so they keep it illegal there. the people that think you're all hippies for allowing people to make their own choices, are fucking idiots, and you should just ignore them.

Still blows my mind, can a federal government stop a state one if they tried to legalize something, like weed, or peds?

 

[Greek777]

I believe a fighter gets better with every fight if he is putting the time in.
I guess peds can make you stronger, heal faster, but i don't really know if it can give you hand speed, amfetamine can boost your reaction time but can those peds which he tested postive for do that?

It's nearly impossible to get through an entire training camp at age 40 without PEDs, nevermind less than a year after a horrible leg injury. ALL fighters use in camp mainly for recovery and to maintain strength and peak performance due to the ridiculous amounts of training required to be an elite MMA fighter.

Believe me, PEDs give you speed, athleticism, and more... Not just by "boosting" it, but by preventing injuries and recovering faster from things that normally would nag and hurt you... Guaranteeing to make you put on a worse performance

It's unbelievable people can act like PEDs don't have that much of an effect/change on a fighter's entire game when they step in the cage. They change everything. That's the entire reason they do them and risk tarnishing their entire career and name if they get caught. The risk outweighs the reward to them. They NEED them.

 

[Greek777]

I wonder if the NSAC actually profits off the penalties. Anderson now will lose a certain percentage of his purse but where does it go? Does the UFC simply get the money back or does the athletic commission get it?

because if the NSAC is profiting off the fines, its almost in their interest to make sure the fight goes through and the fighter gets paid so that they can get the cut of the purse instead of cancelling the fight all together.

It goes directly to the commission :-/

 

[Ministry of Silly Walks]

Still blows my mind, can a federal government stop a state one if they tried to legalize something, like weed, or peds?

they can, but at some point people may get pissed enough to revolt. education is their worst enemy, and now we have the internet to spread the truth.

 

[lookoutawhale]

they pay the fine to the nsac, unless it's a fine that the ufc hands down, like jon for his cocaine against the athlete code of conduct.

damn isnt this a conflict of interest then? The company evaluating the fighter is in a position of profiting off the positive result.

I mean whats to say they dont start tainting samples so they cant get paid more? No one would be the wiser.

 

[Ministry of Silly Walks]

damn isnt this a conflict of interest then? The company evaluating the fighter is in a position of profiting off the positive result.

I mean whats to say they dont start tainting samples so they cant get paid more? No one would be the wiser.

anything is possible. lorenzo is a mobster though, so they may be content to hold off results and pick up the crumbs.

 

[Greek777]

Lorenzo also worked for the NSAC prior to purchasing the UFC. Just wanna put that little tidbit in there.

He also worked there when the UFC was denied access to Nevada, not too long before the Zuffa purchase.

GEE GOLLY

 

[Morpheushasleftthebuilding]

anyone else noticed the difference between jones and the silva test?
jones was the full WADA panel, while with silva it was the partial panel, both for urine.

 

[Ministry of Silly Walks]

Lorenzo also worked for the NSAC prior to purchasing the UFC. Just wanna put that little tidbit in there.

He also worked there when the UFC was denied access to Nevada, not too long before the Zuffa purchase.

GEE GOLLY

yep. he was the commissioner from 96 to 2000. they bought the ufc in 01. nothing odd about it at all.