Coppola made some classics
Apocalypse now is still awesome.
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Cinema Which "classic" films are actually still watchable?
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Apocalypse now is still awesome.
The conversation is very underrated.
Dialogue almost always ages poorly if it's on point for the time. If it's more theatrically written, it can hold up more over time, but can seem sort of wooden. The best writers manage a synthesis of both so their work feels authentic for the time, but decodable in cross-temporal ir cultural contexts.
To me, there are more films from the 40s and 50s that manage to navigate this line because morality plays were more common. In the 60s and 70s you start to get more slice of life work that's more insular and then from the 80s, a lot of work was about spectacle mixed with thin ideas propelling them. In the 90s and early 2000s we got a bunch of sort of pastiches of old ideas, shots and lines because our culture became so self referential. In the 2010s there's a hodgepodge of stuff, with TV competing neck and neck with film for rewatchability and narrativizing the human condition. Sadly this has led to more recycling of old ideas, but also truly unique experiments when they break through.
All that said, when plumbing the archives of old films, it's worth it to follow screenwriters more than directors even though it's usually done the other way around. Auteurs who do both are best, but if it's a team effort the writers can lead you down more reliable paths of quality. The writers sometimes bomb or are doing hack work, but often you can curate a good selection because the studio system was very restrictive about what got passed on to the decent directors.
William Faulkner, for example, wrote The Big Sleep, which is a masterpiece. William Goldman wrote Butch and Sundance, All the President's Men and The Princess Bride. Of course, a director can either butcher or punch up a screenplay so ideally when the good writers link with decent directors (and a smart producer) you obviously get the best results.
To me, there are more films from the 40s and 50s that manage to navigate this line because morality plays were more common. In the 60s and 70s you start to get more slice of life work that's more insular and then from the 80s, a lot of work was about spectacle mixed with thin ideas propelling them. In the 90s and early 2000s we got a bunch of sort of pastiches of old ideas, shots and lines because our culture became so self referential. In the 2010s there's a hodgepodge of stuff, with TV competing neck and neck with film for rewatchability and narrativizing the human condition. Sadly this has led to more recycling of old ideas, but also truly unique experiments when they break through.
All that said, when plumbing the archives of old films, it's worth it to follow screenwriters more than directors even though it's usually done the other way around. Auteurs who do both are best, but if it's a team effort the writers can lead you down more reliable paths of quality. The writers sometimes bomb or are doing hack work, but often you can curate a good selection because the studio system was very restrictive about what got passed on to the decent directors.
William Faulkner, for example, wrote The Big Sleep, which is a masterpiece. William Goldman wrote Butch and Sundance, All the President's Men and The Princess Bride. Of course, a director can either butcher or punch up a screenplay so ideally when the good writers link with decent directors (and a smart producer) you obviously get the best results.
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Wouldn't call this classic. I'm thinking like 60s or earlier.
I dunno, did you see Rumblefish?
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"Years from now, when you talk about this, and you will, be kind."
Ahead of its time imo.
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People can be prejudice against old movies because they are based on opinions of family favorites like Ben Hur, Casblanca and Gone with the Wind. They movies that had unpleasant themes that are more relatable with real and modern life that current generations may enjoy are almost never mentioned in the top lists of classic movies.
The best movies are not really well known.
People can be prejudice against old movies because they are based on opinions of family favorites like Ben Hur, Casblanca and Gone with the Wind. They movies that had unpleasant themes that are more relatable with real and modern life that current generations may enjoy are almost never mentioned in the top lists of classic movies.
Man i really loved all the presidents men. I thought the movie was one of those rare times it lived up to the book. Redford is an amazing actor
It was killing me that I forgot the title.
He wasn't necessarily gay. In the movie it turns out he wasn't, he was just disinterested in the things typical males usually did which nowadays is totally not uncommon and normal. However a lot of people have associated the story to that of being a veiled gay coming of age story. Either way it was a nice watch because it may surprise you that gender stereotypes were a problem back in the 1950s where we may typically think those things didn't really exist back then.
Coppola is also a good screenwriter.
He also knows how to get a good screenwriter on board.
Fun fact :
John Milius wrote the screenplay for apocalypse.
He also directed and wrote Conan the barbarian with Arnie!
Last but not least: he also produced the very first UFCs!!
That's one Coppola movie I did not see yet. I do enjoy his and Kubrick's work immensely.
Correction:
Oliver Stone wrote the screenplay for Conan!
Stone made or wrote some great movies with unforgettable
characters.
Scarface. Wrote the screenplay at the peak of his cocaine addiction. Lol
Salvador. Great political movie about the civil war. Director. and writer.
Platoon. Just awesome Vietnam war movie. D and w.
Wall Street. D and w. I mean... when you come up with lines such as greed is good..
Natural born killers. Tarantino script.
JFK. The movie that probably became THE conspiracy movie of all times. Wonder how much of an impact it had on the whole “don’t trust the government/conspiracy/deep state” movement.
I follow stones Facebook account. It’s interesting.
That's because they aren't classics.
Classic can mean being a favorite but also it can mean to describe a vintage genre yes? What are we talking about here? I assumed he wanted to know if any vintage movies worth watching.
Listen here you trashy Korean Martha Stewert, this thread encompasses It's a Wonderful Life and Miracle on 34th street, and that's IT!