Why do so many Americans reject socialism?

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What 2 fronts would be fighting? We haven't been successfully invaded since 1066. Our biggest actual threats are to our overseas territories, such as the Falklands, Gibraltar and Northern Ireland. We don't need the US. But in any case, this is a huge strawman and isn't relevant to the US healthcare system.
Every NATO member needs the US. That's why they joined NATO.

Did Turkey need us to get involved when it decided to shoot down a Russian plane? No, but it needed us to say that we have their backs because they're a NATO member.

Everyone in NATO needs NATO except for us. We just put it together to keep Europe from destroying itself for a third fucking time. It's worked out pretty well, wouldn't you agree?

The point is, we cannot cut 1¢ of our defense spending for healthcare or anything else.
 

lookoutawhale

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I think there seems to be some confusion on what socialism is. Different age groups seem to have a different view on things. Younger American seem to like it more than the older generation who i think associate it with Russia and communism. I think its why many younger people are rooting for Bernie while the older people are voting for Hillary among the democrats.

There was a poll done last year in the states:

YouGov | One third of millennials view socialism favorably

One third of millennials view socialism favorably


  • 52% of Americans have a favorable view of capitalism, while only 26% have a favorable view of socialism.
  • Among younger Americans, however, attitudes are a lot more divided. 36% of under-30s have a positive view of socialism, while 39% have a positive view of capitalism.
  • Among over-65s, who came of age at the height of the Cold War, only 15% look upon socialism favorably while 59% have a like capitalism.
and it seems Democrats view it better than the republicans




A funny interview took place on the Chris Matthews show. He interviewed the leader of the Democratic Party: Debbie Shultz. Chris asked her what the difference between a socialist and democrat was. She didn't know the answer to that question because there isn't one. :)



View: https://youtu.be/JHpiMv3Sy8Q?t=55s
 

EyeAmYuki

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People shit on the NHS but that's only because other policies are straining it and there is a conscious effort to turn it into a shit show by politicians with a vested interest to turn it private.
 

Sweets

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And if it wasn't for American money paying for heroin and meth from the northeastern tribes there probably wouldn't be a conflict. Might be total subjugation which could be worse, shit is hard to tell.
It's not for this thread but John Pilger wrote an excellent book called "new rulers of the word" which details how and why the US/Australia put those butchers in power in Burma. Good read.
 

Lord Vutulaki

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People shit on the NHS but that's only because other policies are straining it and there is a conscious effort to turn it into a shit show by politicians with a vested interest to turn it private.

Imagine how much better it would be if you ceded Scotland to Russia?
 

EyeAmYuki

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Imagine how much better it would be if you ceded Scotland to Russia?
It's not the Jocks that are the issue. It's all the brown people abusing it and the politicians underfunding it.

Although Scotland should be allowed their independence.
 

Lord Vutulaki

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It's not the Jocks that are the issue. It's all the brown people abusing it and the politicians underfunding it.

Although Scotland should be allowed their independence.
Yeah shits me that chain migration oldies have a sense of entitlement to tax payer funded services when they've contributed nothing.

As a brown person I apologize for that. No one in my family has ever done it though but uts fucked up.
 

Leigh

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White lumpens also abuse it. Let's not blame one particular demographic
 

EyeAmYuki

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Yeah shits me that chain migration oldies have a sense of entitlement to tax payer funded services when they've contributed nothing.

As a brown person I apologize for that. No one in my family has ever done it though but uts fucked up.
Haha. At the risk of sounding like a dick I don't think I'm lying when I say brown people as opposed to immigrants in general. Go to any ER within the M25 and the waiting room isn't filled with Sergei or Dimitry. It's Ahmeds and Mohammeds.
 

EyeAmYuki

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White lumpens also abuse it. Let's not blame one particular demographic
Some, obviously. No where near as many proportionally though imo. I don't care what the stats say. Visit an ER waiting room.

I can only speak for West London.
 

Lord Vutulaki

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Haha. At the risk of sounding like a dick I don't think I'm lying when I say brown people as opposed to immigrants in general. Go to any ER within the M25 and the waiting room isn't filled with Sergei or Dimitry. It's Ahmeds and Mohammeds.

Oh THOSE brown people. Apology retracted.
 

sparkuri

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I'm sorry I didn't read the thread, but my opinion of socialism as I understand it is "good will" programs regulated and allocated by government.
Communism and socialism sound great to me, in theory.
Except that it seems to actually achieve the opposite result, in eliminating the spirit of the individual.