The UG was built on that, and was 20 times worse when it came to toxicity. I think there's somewhere a point you're trying to make that is valid, but mostly I think you are projecting a bit. I was a lurker for two years at the UG before I finally signed up.Not enough incentive. You still come off like an offshoot instead of a forum independent of your competitors. Circle jerking and inside jokes make up 90 percent of forum activity. In short take a nice hard look at yourself.
I say many forums are exactly like you describe but they thrive. Now please elaborate, offshoot of what?