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FriendlyPuma

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Would be a much better world for sure. To be relieved of this massive liability that's been dragging our name and values in the mud for decades now, can't put a price on that.
 

Dead Bluff

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He knows. He just chooses to play nice. I think he really does want to broker peace in that region.

I honestly think his heart is totally in the right place. If they let him win, I think he'd end both the current "meat grinders" within 30 days.
 

Dead Bluff

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Most everyone else is onboard......the biggest stumbling block is American Christians and their brain washed and unfounded need to protect the Jew.
 

sparkuri

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Most everyone else is onboard......the biggest stumbling block is American Christians and their brain washed and unfounded need to protect the Jew.
Deep brainwashing.
"Grafted in to the branch" is the latest bullshit pumped the last couple decades from the 501 (c)(3) mega-conglomerates.
 

Dead Bluff

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The biblical hang up.

Genesis 12
New International Version
The Call of Abram
12 The Lord had said to Abram, “Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you.

2 “I will make you into a great nation,
and I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.”


I would counter that the Jews that are running things right now have as much Abraham blood in them as I do.
Hell you could make the argument that most Muzzies carry more Abraham blood in them than the typical Israeli.
 

sparkuri

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The biblical hang up.

Genesis 12
New International Version
The Call of Abram
12 The Lord had said to Abram, “Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you.

2 “I will make you into a great nation,
and I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.”
Not to mention
Aaron's budding staff in the ark of the covenant.
Many evangelicals point to this & other scriptures(I am the true vine, and ye are the branches)being the Holy Spirit grafting-in of Christians as the chosen people.
Therefore they support Israel as supporting themselves & God's divine promise.

It is entirely gnostic, delusional, and cult-ural.
Sociologically it cannot be undone in short order.

Ironically, OT prophecies are clear & non-ethereal in nature, aka "black & white", or at least interpreted in their time, creating the baseline for prophetic interpretation from God to man(eg Daniel, 70 weeks ., Isaiah 9, 53 etc.)wheras the NT is like watching a fight through an upside down aquarium full of mammals hanging in the sky in 500 "spirit languages".
They are wholly interpretively logically incompatible.
IE, they're reading prophecy INTO existence by establishing methodology according to ethereal belief, not observable facts or logic.
And mistranslated or EDITED scriptures are used as a foundational springboard for new baseline interpretation.


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Le Chat Noir

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Not to mention
Aaron's budding staff in the ark of the covenant.
Many evangelicals point to this & other scriptures(I am the true vine, and ye are the branches)being the Holy Spirit grafting-in of Christians as the chosen people.
Therefore they support Israel as supporting themselves & God's divine promise.

It is entirely gnostic, delusional, and cult-ural.
Sociologically it cannot be undone in short order.

Ironically, OT prophecies are clear & non-ethereal in nature, aka "black & white", or at least interpreted in their time, creating the baseline for prophetic interpretation from God to man(eg Daniel, 70 weeks ., Isaiah 9, 53 etc.)wheras the NT is like watching a fight through an upside down aquarium full of mammals hanging in the sky in 500 "spirit languages".
They are wholly interpretively logically incompatible.
IE, they're reading prophecy INTO existence by establishing methodology according to ethereal belief, not observable facts or logic.
And mistranslated or EDITED scriptures are used as a foundational springboard for new baseline interpretation.


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You‘re completely upside down on this and Paul clearly refutes replacement theology.
God clearly condemns Jewish leadership repeatedly yet says He will redeem the Jewish nation and they will repent.
Israel Will never cease to exist, God Himself will defend the nation.

You can see prophecy fulfilled with the nation coming back into existence, the language and currency returning, and the land transforming from a wasteland into a fruitful agricultural hub.

Le Chat Noir
 

sparkuri

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You‘re completely upside down on this and Paul clearly refutes replacement theology.
God clearly condemns Jewish leadership repeatedly yet says He will redeem the Jewish nation and they will repent.
Israel Will never cease to exist, God Himself will defend the nation.

You can see prophecy fulfilled with the nation coming back into existence, the language and currency returning, and the land transforming from a wasteland into a fruitful agricultural hub.

Le Chat Noir
That's entirely interpretation, again.

Paul - Read Paul's letters to the churches apart from the Roman-delivered scriptures you now have today.
The context of Paul, is a Roman Jew. Think of him like George Soros, initially.
He himself had jewish heritage. He sold out & watched his heritage further erode, saw the darkside, joined them in it, and was meagerly paid to persecute his heritage people. And he saw pharisees/saducees to the same in practice. He never met Jesus.
The copies of his letters were not written by him, keep that in mind. And they were "released" over 100 years later BY whomever(the circus aka church).
Examine these lettets critically like any other book you would in school, critically.
Who, what, when, where, why, how.

The rest - Do the same with "gospels" that were handed to you(same story, generations later, not authentic authorship).
Examine them individually & critically.
If you don't have time, get help from those who have studied the Greek, Hebrew, aramaic etc.
Robert Cargill univ. Iowa or Bart Erhmen.

Israel- Israel isn't even Israel.
This is a rabbit hole in itself.
You will HAVE to understand this, or it will continue to erode this planet & affirm the worldview. The prophecy that "His people" will return to the promised land needs to be examined, APART from the fact "Israel" is literally on a map, and the church(circus) affirms prophecy fullfilled by this "1 in a million" fact.

From the Christian perspective, this fulfilled prophecy means ALL OTHER SCRIPTURE must be "true".
So why not the other apocrypha or gospels that DON'T align with this, and are deleted from canon, and/or changed, and or mistranslated?

The "gospels"(Mathew & Luke) btw, wete written by "q" documents and Mark.
John is an ENTIRELY different book set.
So you CANNOT take this book(NT) as a book, but sets.

Look at doctrine/theology.

Mark/Q/Mathew/Luke


John
John 1-3
Revelation(Revealing)

Pauls letters

Acts/Romans

Titus/Philemon

James

Peter's(read ALL Peter's books & his Revelation)

Hebrews

Most people will never do any of this.
Nor will they study Greek, Hebrew, other text.
They will take the shortcut their entire lives & die.
"My people die daily for lack of knowledge".
Literal knowledge, not gnostic/ethereal "holy spirit knowledge".
 

sparkuri

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"God", or YHWH/YHVH/YHUA/, one of benevolence, would not give us brains & tell us not to use them.
We use all other senses that derive from the brain.
In other words, if it's true, examining it critically would either:
1. Affirm it infallibly
2. Not be a condemning factor to eternal hellfire.
 

sparkuri

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My approach personally Le Chat Noir @Le Chat Noir , was to examine the OT(Torah Ketuvi'im/Ne'viim) prophecies foretelling messianic prophecy(about 59) one by one.
Did Yeshuah FULFILL them.

First for me was Isaiah 9:6, then 53, and so on.
 

White347lx

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Some of Israels contributions to humanity... just a few
This is some serious we wuzzery. I can tell you the jews get a lot of credit for medical devices simply because they don't have to deal with the FDA so manufacturers go there to introduce new products. Pure we wuzzery.
 

Jamie999

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This is some serious we wuzzery. I can tell you the jews get a lot of credit for medical devices simply because they don't have to deal with the FDA so manufacturers go there to introduce new products. Pure we wuzzery.
Lol goes both ways.. You guys say jews control every single little thing that happens in the world. Yet if something positive happens it can't be the Jews right? Haha